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Already did a long time ago and you ignored facts but I would expect nothing else out of you but more lies.

Show me where I said millions or even a 1 mill you clueless dick ?




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But yes, it's about 2 to 3 guys a week during more active market periods.




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If this is true then combine revenue from the other losers is minimum gross 544k per year. Now you can assume 50% get refunded but I don't believe it's near that high as evidenced here as nearly every one who did the combine ended up negative.
But maybe you believe rookies with very little futures trading experience have a better chance at being net positive ?
So take 544k, with imaginery 50% refund, puts you at 272k revenue, now take 3 employees to run this for you at 50k salary and the net is still minimum 6 figures to the company owner regardless if anyone ever trades live.

Now up the failure to be profitable rate to the more realistic 75-80% and the net becomes 275-300k




If you get really bored mike pretty much posted the numbers % wise on et many moons ago. For this very reason this is why tst will probably always make more from combines than from their live traders.
 
Shiko, don't ever listen to me or anyone else that says you can't do something. If you think you can do it and you are willing to make the sacrifices and take the risks to find out, do it! The worst feeling in life is regret. Especially when you near the end of your life and you are dumbfounded why you didn't take the chances you could have taken. It's a horrible way to leave this world. So go find out!


And finally we actually agree on something


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Don't ever offer to take a lie detector test you clueless dick




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We are a CBOT member firm which is owned by the CME group. Those trading ES would receive the customer exchange rates. If we have YM traders we would pass on the member exchange rates (as we hold IDEM trading rights) but we do not have member exchange rates for all products therefore many are customer exchange rates. Once a live trader is proven in a certain product and if we are not receiving member rates for that products we will certainly look to add that seat (or member trading rights) and pass on the member rates along.

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So they had an IDEM seat. I was wrong on that. So only YM traders (which nobody trades) would get member rates. No member rates for CL or ES. Sorry Volente, you lose again. It's becoming a habit and you know what they say about how hard it is to break bad habits....
 
That's bad. However for Northern America such things especially disconnections on weekly basis is inexcusable. I am looking to change provider. Used to be very reliable but not anymore.
With so many connection you already have pretty big expense?

i use one ADSL internet connection, one 3G connection, two wimax connection,and then i mix all of them (dispatch) into one unit connection in order to connect to a VPS ( virtual private server) for trading which is located in Chicago and has a few mili seconds delay or ping time ..:D say thanks to Rogers to rogers cuz it disconnects only for two hours ...:)
 
That's bad. However for Northern America such things especially disconnections on weekly basis is inexcusable. I am looking to change provider. Used to be very reliable but not anymore.
With so many connection you already have pretty big expense?
Iran internet is one of the most expensive internet connection in the world & also it has lowest quality and highest censorship .with VPS my connection is secure .i use those internets only to connect to a VPS.no one will believe this . also high speed interent is only restricted to special companies & is completely investigated by secret police ... i'm the only Iranian between 80 million people who trade CME :)
 
Thatès hard man. But how do you know you are the only one among 80 millionÉ

Iran internet is one of the most expensive internet connection in the world & also it has lowest quality and highest censorship .with VPS my connection is secure .i use those internets only to connect to a VPS.no one will believe this . also high speed interent is only restricted to special companies & is completely investigated by secret police ... i'm the only Iranian between 80 million people who trade CME :)
 
Thatès hard man. But how do you know you are the only one among 80 millionÉ
because of sanctions no one can open account in a US broker or even transit any money, because of internet no one can not connect and also can not have credit/paypal/visa card .also national currency dropped by 400% which makes it so hard to spend on foreign currency .i spent two years to find some solutions to above questions...i've dedicated myself and sacrificed ... so i hope TST would be a window of opportunity
 
It definitely is.
BTW, how speed is important to your tradingÉ I mean you mentioned your internet is slow.

because of sanctions no one can open account in a US broker or even transit any money, because of internet no one can not connect and also can not have credit/paypal/visa card .also national currency dropped by 400% which makes it so hard to spend on foreign currency .i spent two years to find some solutions to above questions...i've dedicated myself and sacrificed ... so i hope TST would be a window of opportunity
 
It definitely is.
BTW, how speed is important to your tradingÉ I mean you mentioned your internet is slow.
i just need a stable internet only to connect to a VPS.due to high censorship internet upload speed is so low(real speed is 1/15 of it's nominal name).with ordinary Iran internet NT disconnects every 5 minutes and candles shape are different due to some missing information .also i use a black and white connection so ,in this way my mouse action speed increases more.as i said i mix all of them only to have access to VPS ...
 
It means it is better to trade form higher TF. go slow, rightÉ

i just need a stable internet only to connect to a VPS.due to high censorship internet upload speed is so low(real speed is 1/15 of it's nominal name).with ordinary Iran internet NT disconnects every 5 minutes and candles shape are different due to some missing information .also i use a black and white connection so ,in this way my mouse action speed increases more.as i said i mix all of them only to have access to VPS ...
 
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