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[RedDuke]

Its a matter of not wanting to be ruled by NYC, Chicago, Detroit, San Fransisco, Los Angeles etc. They seem unable to even run their own cities much less make rational decisions for the whole country.

Why shouldn't people in flyover country have an equal say?

totally agree about equal say. But it is not equal, when President is elected against majority wish. Or when ND senator with 800k population has the same say as NY senator with 19 mil population.

So yeah, we do not like when fly over trying to tell us how to live. One example, had it not been to idiotic religious folks, stem cells could have by now cured so many deceases.

 

[LacesOut]

totally agree about equal say. But it is not equal, when President is elected against majority wish. Or when ND senator with 800k population has the same say as NY senator with 19 mil population.

So yeah, we do not like when fly over trying to tell us how to live. One example, had it not been to idiotic religious folks, stem cells could have by now cured so many deceases.

Look at New York State.
In 2018, Cuomo won 7 of 62 counties. And he gets to represent the state. What kind of bullshit is that? How is that representative of the ‘will of the people’?

New York is Forever Blue...????

 

[Buy1Sell2]

totally agree about equal say. But it is not equal, when President is elected against majority wish. Or when ND senator with 800k population has the same say as NY senator with 19 mil population.

So yeah, we do not like when fly over trying to tell us how to live. One example, had it not been to idiotic religious folks, stem cells could have by now cured so many deceases.

The system was designed so that states like ND have a way to check places like CA and try to avoid mob rule. If you don't understand this, I suggest taking a course on The Constitution and what makes us a republic. The system was beautifully engineered by our Founders. In your statement above, it's ironic that you state that you do not like "fly over" to tell you how to live. With this admission, you have unwittingly made the argument for ND having the same number of senators as CA since this helps ND avoid the CA mob telling them how to live. Your absolutely ridiculous answer indicates that you are un-American at best.

 

[Tony Stark]

How is that representative of the ‘will of the people’?

Coumo 3,635,340

Republican 2,207,602

 

[Overnight]

Look at New York State.
In 2018, Cuomo won 7 of 62 counties. And he gets to represent the state. What kind of bullshit is that? How is that representative of the ‘will of the people’?

New York is Forever Blue...????
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See the bottom 8 counties by the fish? That's like 70 or 80% of the population of the whole state. You are either from the NYC metro area, or yer a redneck living upstate whose communities are being supported by all the highly-taxed people downstate in the City. Sorry. That's the way the cookies crumble in NY.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Look at New York State.
In 2018, Cuomo won 7 of 62 counties. And he gets to represent the state. What kind of bullshit is that? How is that representative of the ‘will of the people’?

New York is Forever Blue...????
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not a good thing. States should also be run with counties getting electoral votes. There are numerous states where the mob in the metro areas press their will onto the rest of the state----and it's not good.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

The US system was already bastardized when senators went from being appointed by state legislatures to direct election by the populace. This in effect removed the voice of the state in The Senate and subjected the choice of senators to the will of the mob. Now, you have a group of mavericks and barons in The Senate who feel they are entitled to do as they please. Hopefully, this can be changed back once the Article V Convention of States occurs.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

83% of Hillary's 3,000,000 popular vote win came from California, a state Trump was never going to win. The remainder came from NY.

So, this time the popular vote margin could be even bigger and it won't matter.

This is slightly incorrect. ---All of Hillary's margin came from California. ---Without California, Trump won the popular vote.

Electoral College result without CA would have been 304 to 172. --And the popular vote?? ------
Results without California---------now everyone should understand why we have an electoral college.

Clinton 57,091,006

Trump 58,495,806

 

[Tony Stark]

Electoral College result without CA would have been 304 to 172. --And the popular vote?? ------
Results without California---------now everyone should understand why we have an electoral college.

Clinton 57,091,006

Trump 58,495,806

Yes,if only the most populous state in the country isn't included Trump wins the popular vote

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Yes,if only the most populous state in the country isn't included Trump wins the popular vote

Yes--- so as you can see, The Electoral College is integral to fair elections in The US. Over 49 states, Trump wins popular vote, yet the mob in California makes it so that folks like you can then claim that Trump lost the popular vote by a bunch. --- and so is an illegitimate president. Then you can try to remove him from office. The Electoral College was designed for just this type of mob rule avoidance.