Today’s the day we were promised proof of election fraud!

[jem]

no you lying moron.

I said they dropped the case.
You tried to make excuses for them by posting ambiguous shit.

But you could not even defend your own bullshit because the case should have never been filed.


A point you don't seem to be able to grasp... in part because you don't grasp law very well even though you think you are Perry Mason

So now you're arguing against yourself. You first expressed outrage because the the prosecutors withdrew, now you claim there never should have been a prosecution. Huh???

If the case is "bull shit" as you've characterized it (it isn't) why were you outraged when it was dropped?

But at least you've finally read the article you were outraged over!

 

[piezoe]

no you lying moron.

I said they dropped the case.
You tried to make excuses for them by posting ambiguous shit.

But you could not even defend your own bullshit because the case should have never been filed.

A point you don't seem to be able to grasp... in part because you don't grasp law very well even though you think you are Perry Mason

perhaps it is time to remind you of your original post, you seem to have forgotten it.

You were responding to one of what must be numerous posts suggesting that Robert Mueller's (note the spelling) investigation did not amount to anything OR that it did not turn up any evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. What the exact position being taken in the post you were responding to is not clear, but certainly any one who maintains either that Mueller's investigation did not amount to anything or that it produced no evidence of collusion is incorrect.

You then responded with Post# 11 (this thread). Which I shall reproduce below:

"I was also still waiting for Mueller to go after those "Russian trolls" who answered his complaint and showed up in court.

I just learned the Crooked Muller [sic] team dropped the case... in May."​

We could only assume by "Russian Trolls," you specifically meant Concord Management and Concord Consulting, as you gave a link to a NYT article explaining why the the Concord prosecution had been dropped. Needless to say, it wasn't because they played no role in Russian interference in the 2016 election!

By characterizing Mueller's team as "crooked" you naturally led me to believe you thought the Concord prosecution should not have been dropped. Calling a team "crooked" does suggest that you don't agree with what they are doing, does it not?

I accused you of not reading the NYT article. I'm still of the opinion that you only read the headline and not the entire NYT article, after I accused you of not reading it. Your original post indicated to me that you had no knowledge of why the prosecution was dropped. Your later posts tell me that I embarrassed you into reading the article.

P.S. I'm not the Perry Mason type, my understanding of the law would by more along the lines of former Republican, and now Democrat Chris Coon's (JD, Yale).

 

[exGOPer]

In all this hysteria about voting machines, it's very important to remember that ballots in Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota & Pennsylvania are almost exclusively cast by humans on paper.

There are also some in-person ballot marking machines which produce a paper ballot that each voter can verify their choices on before they submit their paper ballot printout, which is what gets counted and stored.

Dominion & Scytl could have theoretically altered election night results somehow, but all the original paper ballots still exist and are available for manual recounts at Trump's request in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada & Minnesota.

Thankfully we don't have to speculate about this much longer.

We'll know for certain whose lying by Wednesday at the latest, when Georgia's Republican Secretary of State releases the results of their ongoing audit, involving a by-hand count of every single paper ballot in the state.

Any fraud by Dominion or Scytl's ballot counting & vote reporting equipment/software will be revealed, if it exists.

After all the Dominion/Scytl vote flipping claim includes:

Georgia : Switched : 17,407 Lost Votes : 33,574

 

[UsualName]

Oh shit, this is what I am here for! Rudy G petitions to appear in the Boockvar complaint. There’s a zoom link for this hearing, and it was previously scheduled for today. This should be good.

 

[JohnnyMargin]

"Wait . . . while I reach into my pants for that petition. I know it's here somewhere, Tutar can you help me?"

 

[UsualName]

From what I’m reading Rudy had quite the adventure yesterday. For $20k, that’s a good days work though. I’m not going to lie, Rudy ran Trump for millions through his presidency and got his son a sweet job in the process. You can’t knock the hustle I suppose.

Team Trump is 1-24 in court since the election. This case is their Big case too, so we are coming to the end soon.

 

[UsualName]

Oh boy. Trump’s team filed their opposition to a motion to dismiss in Pennsylvania and it is a doozy but my favorite part is the “statistical analysis” that in their opinion awards Trump all of the electors from Pennsylvania because they say the margin could change by 75,000 votes in Trumps favor.

Where’s the rub you may ask, Biden is leading Trump by 81,000 votes.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Oh boy. Trump’s team filed their opposition to a motion to dismiss in Pennsylvania and it is a doozy but my favorite part is the “statistical analysis” that in their opinion awards Trump all of the electors from Pennsylvania because they say the margin could change by 75,000 votes in Trumps favor.

Where’s the rub you may ask, Biden is leading Trump by 81,000 votes.

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Also it is a for example or hypothetical... you don't ask the court to do something based on bullshit hypotheticals...

Rudy is the worst lawyer now...

 

[UsualName]

Also it is a for example or hypothetical... you don't ask the court to do something based on bullshit hypotheticals...

Rudy is the worst lawyer now...

Right! It’s an elementary, back of the napkin hypothetical, not even an approximate. On top of that there is zero evidence and “improperly counted” isn’t even a real thing.

 

[El OchoCinco]

A Trump campaign attorney conceded in court on Thursday morning that he tried to enter hundreds of dodgy form-filed affidavits into evidence, even though their own investigation found that a subset of the sworn statements that they received were filled with lies and “spam.”

“This is concerning,” Judge Daniel Kiley, from Arizona’s Maricopa County, remarked with some understatement.

“How is that a reliable process of gathering evidence?” the judge asked, later blocking admission of the so-called evidence.

Put on the spot by the judge was the Trump campaign’s lawyer Kory Langhofer, who explained the automated process that reflected their post-election evidence hunt. It included an online form whose reliability Langhofer claimed was boosted by the fact that it included a CAPTCHA, which weeded out the bots. The attorneys then visited the complainants’ homes. The Trump campaign said it excluded the submissions of those who swore to lies, but they included the ones they could not prove were lying into evidence.

Judge Kiley replied that this did not show the remaining affidavits are trustworthy.

“That just shows you cannot disprove what’s asserted,” Kiley noted.

Shortly after, Langhofer went sharply off-message with Trump representatives telling any media outlet that would listen about their vast voter-fraud conspiracy theory.

“This is not a fraud case,” Langhofer said, casting the lawsuit instead as allegations of flaws within the voting system. “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”

That marked the second time in as many days that attorneys for the Trump campaign disavowed in court what the president and his loyalists alleged in print, tweets and on the public airwaves. On Wednesday, it was the campaign’s Porter Wright attorney Jonathan Goldstein who refused to allege fraud when pressed by a Pennsylvania judge.