the writing was so clearly on the wall. it's annoying to hear the republican partisan voters complain now. imo, very bad judges of character - or just blinded by the need to belong to a 'winning' side
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to conservatives -is Bush the worst ever?
- Thread starter jem
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the writing was so clearly on the wall. it's annoying to hear the republican partisan voters complain now. imo, very bad judges of character - or just blinded by the need to belong to a 'winning' side
Quote from Avid_Consumer:
the writing was so clearly on the wall. it's annoying to hear the republican partisan voters complain now. imo, very bad judges of character - or just blinded by the need to belong to a 'winning' side
or having to vote that way because the dems put up such crappy candidates.
Quote from dddooo:
In the last presidential election it was your fault for nominating a clown like kerry to run against Bush.
Oh come on, Kerry was OK. Far from the best candidate/campaigner of course but a decent thoughtful and knowledgeable person who would make a fine president. It's the republican MO to demonize the opposition, if you chose to believe the crap they spewed about Kerry, Gore, Edwards, Clinton, if you hate the opposition so passionately that you are willing to blindly buy (despite all the evidence to the contrary) all that nonsense Karl Roves of the republican party feed you - you have no one else to blame. In Bush you got exactly what you deserved. Unfortunately I did not.
Many conservatives did not even vote in the mid term last election even though that is against our principles.
Too fucking late.
Are you conservative dddooo
I am independent. I am conservative on some issues, I am as progressive as they come on some other issues. But I would never in my life cast a ballot for a lazy, dumb, incurious, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn frat boy regardless of his party affiliation.
Bush and Kerry are both elitist douche bags. Kerry may be more socially liberal ,but they serve the same masters. Kerry is a Skull and Bones Yalie just like the Bushes. If we give the political spectrum a Y axis ,we can see where Kerry fits relative to Bush and the Neocons.
http://www.progressiveliving.org/graphics/TRUE_POLITICAL_SPECTRUM.htm
Quote from jem:
or having to vote that way because the dems put up such crappy candidates.
well if you think kerry would have been worse, then you can take comfort in your decision to advocate bush for president
personally i wish americans would object to being funneled by the two party system, and refuse to endorse candidates with obvious character problems even if they appear to be the better evil
at the very least, don't advocate a person like bush (not sure to what degree you did personally beyond voting for him)
Quote from Avid_Consumer:
well if you think kerry would have been worse, then you can take comfort in your decision to advocate bush for president
personally i wish americans would object to being funneled by the two party system, and refuse to endorse candidates with obvious character problems even if they appear to be the better evil
at the very least, don't advocate a person like bush (not sure to what degree you did personally beyond voting for him)
I am not sure of your point I said I voted against kerry and Gore and I even voted for Perot against Bush senior and clinton. I would love to see a viable third and fourth party. We might get real leadership.
Quote from Avid_Consumer:
well if you think kerry would have been worse, then you can take comfort in your decision to advocate bush for president
personally i wish americans would object to being funneled by the two party system, and refuse to endorse candidates with obvious character problems even if they appear to be the better evil
at the very least, don't advocate a person like bush (not sure to what degree you did personally beyond voting for him)
You have to vote for one of them. I realize it's a chicken and egg situation, but voting for a thrid party candidate is throwing away your vote.
The biggest factor in presidential elections is usually who your opponent is. Bush was lucky, but so was Clinton. They faced four weak opponents between them.
In fact, the last president who faced a strong opponent was probably JFK. Nixon was the incumbent VP, had far more experience and was a very intelligent man. He lost a squeeker that was won because of democrat vote fraud. In some ways, his loss was analogous to Al Gore's, ie a better qualified candidate losing because of likeability. Unlike Gore, Nixon accepted defeat gracefully and did not try to embroil the country in a constitutional crisis, even though he had very good grounds to do so.
Quote from dddooo:
Are you conservative dddooo
I am independent. I am conservative on some issues, I am as progressive as they come on some other issues. But I would never in my life cast a ballot for a lazy, dumb, incurious, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn frat boy regardless of his party affiliation.
Good one dddooo, but your posts speak otherwise. And you shouldn't go throwing stones about whom voted for who when voters like you urged America to "drain the swamp" only to give us Nancy Pelosi, Keith Ellison, and your favorite - Jon Corzine (a lazy, dumb, incurious, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn frat boy), etc.
but do you have to vote for one of them AAA?
this is where i think the broken system everyone accepts is thoroughly misleading. everyone wants their vote to count, but if feeling counted still results in a harmful leader, wouldn't it have been better not to vote, or vote 3rd party?
if a candidate seems like they would make a bad president, i can't think of a good reason to vote for them
this is where i think the broken system everyone accepts is thoroughly misleading. everyone wants their vote to count, but if feeling counted still results in a harmful leader, wouldn't it have been better not to vote, or vote 3rd party?
if a candidate seems like they would make a bad president, i can't think of a good reason to vote for them
Quote from jem:
I just can not believe how the crap just keeps rolling out.
Is Bush the worst president ever? But how much?
Please consider the damage he has done to the future of the country both by his policies and his destruction of Republicans and more importantly conservatives.
Was this all just a plot by the Neo cons to wipe out real conservatives?
My father and I are republicans. But both of us believe this is the worst President we have ever witnessed.