time to sell

Quote from dsq:

For the last 3 weeks the market has rallied off every huge bearish news event.
Thats kind of a bullish thing.Not saying that the market shouldnt tank but it doesnt want to now.Seller fatigue maybe.
I havent traded much in the last few weeks since the market started trading higher off bad news and still short the rallies but the markets strength is impressive and is signal of something pointing upwards rather than downwards.
Imagine if some good news comes out how the market will explode up...

I agree. This is a clear sign that accumulation has begun. It is clear that the Feds have decided to backstop all large financial institutions and their debts, to whatever limits that are required. It is also clear that they are developing fiscal and monetary policies to help homeowners rollover mortgage debts at substantial savings to homeowners (the cost being borne by taxpayers and savers). Critical industries such as auto are also being backstopped. On top of this, the government has announced massive fiscal spending to jump start the economy. Plus, corporate input costs will be substantially less next year, thanks to the deflated commodities. Year-over-year comparisons should be very favorable.

Who knows, how quickly the economy will recover. But the Feds have made a decision that they will print what ever is required to avoid deflation and recession, so really the downside risk is nominal compared to the upside potential. As long as time is of no object (and have no timeframe in mind), the rewards for a bullish play at this time should be substantial.
 
Quote from traderNik:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2212304#post2212304

All profits are paper profits, are they? Wrong.

So in fact you haven't made a cent. Anyone who thinks a paper profit represents 'making money' is... well, a teenager who has never traded a stock in his life.

This still does not explain how you could be up, whether on paper or in actual profit, if you had been averaging down since October 10th, unless you've been doubling or tripling yor position size on each successive average down. If you were buying the major dips, the market wouldn't be close to having you in a position where you could have 'made a ton.

Too bad we have access to the charts as well, isn't it?

Sorry for being harsh, but I call 'em like I see 'em, and I'm calling bull*hit on you.
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That's rich:D
Hard for some people to believe Paul Tudor Jones quip''losers average losers''.

About the only way for that green bull to work is;
wait until all the red shorts start covering, fund redemptions slow.......;
then help buy ,when the polar bears buy to cover .

I remember when i was a youngster, my dad & mom were looking at some RE with a REALTOR. I was afraid, but asked the REALTOR if i could have [free] a green rock @ an empty house.So the REALTOR said yes, i sold that green rock to rock dealer for several green USD.LOL

Its still a free country however if that young trader wants to buy,green candle/help his ex ;
he may want a strong sector crossing the 50 or 200m day moving averages, or both .

:cool:
 
Quote from Bear Plunger:
But the thing is Rich - I doubt you'll ever admit to any of us if it doesn't work out. Please keep us posted. [/B]

He'll start posting as poorrf.
 
Quote from sirgiyan:

Next week can be brutal. In last 2 hours today there was significant volume and still no big gains in price, telling me that every buyer found seller.
Not a good sign IMHO

another star thinker joins ET.
 
I might be not very accurate in verbalizing my thoughts but this market really looks exhausted.
Just wait couple of days...
At least I will not go long until I see one more powerful move downwards with strong rebound and not that anemic type of action we had this friday
 
Quote from sirgiyan:

I might be not very accurate in verbalizing my thoughts but this market really looks exhausted.
Just wait couple of days...
At least I will not go long until I see one more powerful move downwards with strong rebound and not that anemic type of action we had this friday

Let me get this straight . . .

The market opens over 200 points lower on Friday and comes all the way back into positive territory to close up a bit on the week after digesting one bearish news event and economic indicator after another all week long ( not too mention a $50 billion dollar fund going under ) and you call Friday's tape "anemic"?

That's funny!
 
If both moves you've just mentioned (down 200 points and then up to +100) were on bigger volume I would believe it is strong.
So what I mean by anemic is lack of volume. And that's why expect leg down next week
Anyway, we'll see
 
Quote from Landis82:

Let me get this straight . . .

The market opens over 200 points lower on Friday and comes all the way back into positive territory to close up a bit on the week after digesting one bearish news event and economic indicator after another all week long ( not too mention a $50 billion dollar fund going under ) and you call Friday's tape "anemic"?

That's funny!


You are just too bullish, give up and look at the bear roaming wallstreet for another 5-10 years because there will be no catalyst to help this economy out as the entire economy was built on Fuc$king MONOPOLY MONEY for the last decade...
 
Quote from richrf:

I said I was accumulating and I meant it. Profits are paper profits, but seriously all profits are paper profits until one dies - unless there is no investing going on at all.

I do not double up on each dip. I buy leveraged ETFs more on major lows than at highs. I keep bringing down my break even point, and have plenty of cash since I was totally in cash during the whole bear market (I tried shorting the market, but it was too stressful fighting the Feds), so if the shorts want to drive this market to new lows, I am prepared to keep buying, bringing down my break even point on each new low. Ultimately, when the market breaks to the upside, I will be in very good position to make a very tidy profit. This strategy is not for everyone, but it is working very well for me, and yes, as of today, I am doing very well, and I have been taking very little risk in the process - at least compared to the days that I was daytrading.

How would you measure a successful year in terms of % return. 15%, 30%, 50%. Give me a number, and I will let you know if I had a successful 2009. :-)

Rich



If you think making just 50% profit on your capital after an entire year of work is something to even be ''ok'' about,
then you seriosuly should find a new career mate!! lol
 
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