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[ammo]

Quote from Ricter:

and as the economy improves.

might be a long wait and the officials wont do anything to stymie the problem as they would with the banks,they have ignored it for too long,a body in motion....

 

[achilles28]

Quote from ammo:

like the kennedy's in bootlegging and the astors in opium,someone high up is making their fortune in the drug trade,or they would have legalized it by now,as those on the low down are dying,but if we keep the hate alive, that blanket covers it so we don't have to look at it,if you talk to an 80 yr old retired cop,he will tell you it was much easier back then all we had were drunks and domestic squabbles, nowadays everyone is high and you dont know ,on what,stoned or stoned and crazy,and whether or not they are in gangs ,carrying weapons... illegal drugs have made this world a very dangerous place

You made a lot of great points in this thread, Ammo. Thanks. The Asters, Kennedys, Hudson Bay Trading Company (opium to china). Most of the dynastic wealth amassed in the past 300 years was made through drug dealing. It's a blight on our ancestors and something revisionist historians dutifully cover up. Pretend it doesn't exist. I wanted to post a few articles for you in regards to recent drug laundering. Wachovia, Wells Fargo and BoA were all implicated of late, in laundering billions for the drug cartels. You're spot on in the nearly 1 Trillion a year in cash from the narcotics industry must be laundered through banks, and it is! I think Wachovia payed something like a 200 million fine on nearly half a TRILLION (with a T) they laundered for Mexican drug cartels over a 5 year period. No biggie. No arrests. But you or I deposit 15K in dope money and we're facing 25 years in the klink, bare minimum. The whole system is a complete and total fraud. The drug dealers and banks basically work in collusion with Government to keep drugs illegal, and their profits (and bank accounts) exploding. The enforcement is designed to target the independent cowboys (read: competition, trying to make a buck). Keeps street prices high and it's great press for the Boys in Blue! Look at Afghanistan. Heroine production skyrocketed 1000% since "the allies" took over !! US Troops literally guard poppy fields in Afghanistan. Pure corruption but good for business...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...rtels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

 

[achilles28]

Quote from Ricter:

Things will calm down as the heat subsides and as the economy improves.

....Thats all you got?? "It's the heat".... lol

Maybe they're having a bad hair day, too? Bust a few caps...

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from achilles28:

....Thats all you got?? "It's the heat".... lol

Maybe they're having a bad hair day, too? Bust a few caps...

The heat is Bush's fault.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from achilles28:

....Thats all you got?? "It's the heat".... lol

Maybe they're having a bad hair day, too? Bust a few caps...

Heat correlates well with violence. It lowers the "tipping point". Of course it is but one factor. But this is based on empirical observation, i.e. data. Perhaps you can do better than that.

[I'm not denying a cultural problem, it also exists.]

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from achilles28:

You made a lot of great points in this thread, Ammo. Thanks. The Asters, Kennedys, Hudson Bay Trading Company (opium to china). Most of the dynastic wealth amassed in the past 300 years was made through drug dealing. It's a blight on our ancestors and something revisionist historians dutifully cover up. Pretend it doesn't exist. I wanted to post a few articles for you in regards to recent drug laundering. Wachovia, Wells Fargo and BoA were all implicated of late, in laundering billions for the drug cartels. You're spot on in the nearly 1 Trillion a year in cash from the narcotics industry must be laundered through banks, and it is! I think Wachovia payed something like a 200 million fine on nearly half a TRILLION (with a T) they laundered for Mexican drug cartels over a 5 year period. No biggie. No arrests. But you or I deposit 15K in dope money and we're facing 25 years in the klink, bare minimum. The whole system is a complete and total fraud. The drug dealers and banks basically work in collusion with Government to keep drugs illegal, and their profits (and bank accounts) exploding. The enforcement is designed to target the independent cowboys (read: competition, trying to make a buck). Keeps street prices high and it's great press for the Boys in Blue! Look at Afghanistan. Heroine production skyrocketed 1000% since "the allies" took over !! US Troops literally guard poppy fields in Afghanistan. Pure corruption but good for business...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...rtels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

Damn, I didn't think anybody knew that down here in the basement but me. That why half those "blacks are violent" threads, I don't respond to. I always have to consider the source, which is usually educated just barely enuf to feed his face.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from ammo:

like the kennedy's in bootlegging and the astors in opium,someone high up is making their fortune in the drug trade,or they would have legalized it by now,as those on the low down are dying,but if we keep the hate alive, that blanket covers it so we don't have to look at it,if you talk to an 80 yr old retired cop,he will tell you it was much easier back then all we had were drunks and domestic squabbles, nowadays everyone is high and you dont know ,on what,stoned or stoned and crazy,and whether or not they are in gangs ,carrying weapons... illegal drugs have made this world a very dangerous place

You too, ammo, kudos for homework

 

[ammo]

Quote from Ricter:

Heat correlates well with violence. It lowers the "tipping point". Of course it is but one factor. But this is based on empirical observation, i.e. data. Perhaps you can do better than that.

[I'm not denying a cultural problem, it also exists.]

not being flippant, but july 3 or 4th was a full moon, ask your local beat cop,things always escalate on a full moon

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from achilles28:

Black incarceration rates are 4 times higher than the general population, both in the US and Canada. That's what you constantly ignore, Ricter. North American blacks have a serious problem. Admit it. Their ghetto culture celebrates violence, drugs and criminality. Then you've got an epidemic of single parent families and culture of dependency (Federal/State/City welfare programs) that's astronomical. There's zero accountability in the black community. It's whitey this, poverty that, racism this, education that. Pure bullshit. Most blacks, the loser ones, take no accountability for their actions. Zero. It's always someone else s fault.

How do we solve the problem? Declare martial law? I don't think so. But I agree with Mav that solving the problem starts with an agreed upon definition of it. Don't you? Of course, Blacks won't "tattle" on their own. That would be a violation of their jailhouse code. Catch 22, isn't it? On the one hand, they need to own their shit as a community. And on the other, Blacks cast off any sense of accountability because they're governed by a criminal mentality, not to rat on their own. It's a complete joke. Most inner city blacks, are a backward people. Talk to the average immigrant from Africa, and they're upright, self-respecting, well-spoken and value education. Far cry from their brethren that lived in the richest Country in the world, for the past 200 years.

As far as solutions, the best one was already mentioned - let the Blacks have Chicago. White flight. Every self-respecting, middle class white person in fear for their life should pick-up and leave Chicago. Let the Blacks live in their own shit. Heavy policing should happen in the poorer areas of affluent communities to keep fucked-up minorities from moving in. You made a good point, earlier back. That martial law was our future. After the economy implodes, the Feds will let the inner cities roil, to get the nation behind marital law. That's where all this is going. We can see it already with Mav and others calling for Martial Law. We could nip this problem in the bud, right now, with a Federal injection of money to triple or quadruple police budgets in the nations most gang-ridden cities. This would be equivalent to Mavs answer, but within the law and doable, as of tomorrow. But this won't happen because the Feds want chaos to seize power. Anyhow.

+1

But Mav is not a deep thinker, like most the hard right. Reactionaries, almost all of em.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from Ricter:

Heat correlates well with violence. It lowers the "tipping point". Of course it is but one factor. But this is based on empirical observation, i.e. data. Perhaps you can do better than that.

[I'm not denying a cultural problem, it also exists.]

Confirming my GW theory. Dark colors attract heat. Heat makes people pissed off. There you go. Of course that doesn't explain all the crazy white bastards, but it's a start.