Jem, you do get that I <b>wasn't</b> seriously asking why other people get fat if they don't want to, right? It was just a sample of a dumb question with a self-evident answer, on par with Loki's naive/trollish query; 'If I don't need drugs to feel ok, how come anyone else would need them?'
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There's something wrong with human nature.
- Thread starter Rearden Metal
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I used to be firmly in the "drugs are bad, don't legalize them" camp. However, after looking at the results and studying the issue in a more objective manner, I now feel that legalization is the better way.
The "war on drugs" is a failure. Even DEA agents admit as much.
What good does it do to imprison somebody who is addicted to drugs and place him or her in an environment with rapists and murderers? Prisons should be for serious offenders, not addicts. I don't like the fact that overcrowding due to imprisoned addicts is leading to the early release of genuinely violent offenders who go out and kill and/or rape more innocents.
Why facilitate a process that leads to so much organized crime and all the associated misery?
Why spend billions of dollars on all of the above?
Why shouldn't someone with chronic pain be able to take drugs to manage that pain?
It is also hypocritical beyond belief that alcohol and tobacco are not currently illegal as well.
Legalize, regulate, and tax. Perhaps it will result in less crime, less overcrowded prisons, and enable those who need help to get it. I don't see the harm in trying something new, especially since the old way is utterly ineffective.
(Discussion of this issue on ET has helped bring me to this new conclusion. Yes, even with all the ad hominem flying around, occasionally one is able to sift through the detritus and learn something here. Thanks especially to RM and others for sharing their experiences and viewpoints.)
The "war on drugs" is a failure. Even DEA agents admit as much.
What good does it do to imprison somebody who is addicted to drugs and place him or her in an environment with rapists and murderers? Prisons should be for serious offenders, not addicts. I don't like the fact that overcrowding due to imprisoned addicts is leading to the early release of genuinely violent offenders who go out and kill and/or rape more innocents.
Why facilitate a process that leads to so much organized crime and all the associated misery?
Why spend billions of dollars on all of the above?
Why shouldn't someone with chronic pain be able to take drugs to manage that pain?
It is also hypocritical beyond belief that alcohol and tobacco are not currently illegal as well.
Legalize, regulate, and tax. Perhaps it will result in less crime, less overcrowded prisons, and enable those who need help to get it. I don't see the harm in trying something new, especially since the old way is utterly ineffective.
(Discussion of this issue on ET has helped bring me to this new conclusion. Yes, even with all the ad hominem flying around, occasionally one is able to sift through the detritus and learn something here. Thanks especially to RM and others for sharing their experiences and viewpoints.)
Quote from hapaboy:
I used to be firmly in the "drugs are bad, don't legalize them" camp. However, after looking at the results and studying the issue in a more objective manner, I now feel that legalization is the better way.
The "war on drugs" is a failure. Even DEA agents admit as much.
What good does it do to imprison somebody who is addicted to drugs and place him or her in an environment with rapists and murderers? Prisons should be for serious offenders, not addicts. I don't like the fact that overcrowding due to imprisoned addicts is leading to the early release of genuinely violent offenders who go out and kill and/or rape more innocents.
Why facilitate a process that leads to so much organized crime and all the associated misery?
Why spend billions of dollars on all of the above?
Why shouldn't someone with chronic pain be able to take drugs to manage that pain?
It is also hypocritical beyond belief that alcohol and tobacco are not currently illegal as well.
Legalize, regulate, and tax. Perhaps it will result in less crime, less overcrowded prisons, and enable those who need help to get it. I don't see the harm in trying something new, especially since the old way is utterly ineffective.
(Discussion of this issue on ET has helped bring me to this new conclusion. Yes, even with all the ad hominem flying around, occasionally one is able to sift through the detritus and learn something here. Thanks especially to RM and others for sharing their experiences and viewpoints.)
Post of the year!!!
They have the law on their side, but should the legalization movement gain serious traction I would think they would indeed finance opposition.Quote from Ricter:
Hmm, interesting. Could there be any motive at all in the tobacco and alcohol lobby to limit the distribution and sale of other such products?
Quote from hapaboy:
I used to be firmly in the "drugs are bad, don't legalize them" camp. However, after looking at the results and studying the issue in a more objective manner, I now feel that legalization is the better way.
Welcome to the dark side of the Libertarian Party. Soon, if not already, you'll be including prostitution or any other crime without a victim by default. More are seeing the logic everyday.
What, do you know why?Quote from Rearden Metal:
By adjusting my eating habits I now weigh 175, which is exactly what I want my weight to be. Why isn't everybody else able to pick their preferred weight level, and then get there in less than a year like I did?
Assuming you're not just trolling (and the jury is still out on that one), do you even realize why this isn't even remotely an intelligent question to ask?
So I should pay your medical expenses?Quote from jem:
I wondered why people got fat too.. but then I had a family.
Lets say you sit at a desk all day doing mentally tiring stuff. Then you come home and you have to help your kids eat and do homework.
(On weekends you take you 3 boys to soccer - baseball, surfing and golf. so even then it is not easy to lose weight.)
Now when you come home you can eat lean chicken and some green beans - sometimes.
But other times you want to eat half a pizza, drink 3 or 4 sam adams, put in a dip, watch a game and scratch your nuts.
That second choice is obviously wrong in the long term.... but in the short run.
Now that is not entirely my life because I own my own business... but I can see how it happens - especially if you have a 2 hour commute.