There's something wrong with human nature.

Quote from vhehn:

rm. nice jump from you being a druggie to religion. let me make it clear to you.
I dont care why you feel the constant need to use opiates. you are welcome to live as you please. or die for that matter since that seems to be your what your end result will be, as long as you dont take innocents with you. its not that simple though because you cant go around stoned without hurting others.
i dont want you on my roads stoned. i dont want to have to pick up the pieces of your family, if you have one, after you destroy them with your habit. i dont want the crime that follows the drug trade around me. if there is a chance that your habit will hurt me or mine i want you locked up or cured. since you have shown no desire to be cured that only leaves incarceration as something that will get through to you. if that is what it takes so be it. can i make it any clearer for you?
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If you spent ten minutes with me while I was using, your entire perspective would shift dramatically, and your media induced 'doped up junkie' stereotype perceptions would fly right out the window. <b>Never</b> nodding off, <b>never</b> itching uncontrollably, <b>never</b> once od'ed. Lucidity and alertness are <b>heightened</b>, not dimmed. The only way you could even tell would be if you checked the size of my pupils (or if I rolled up a sleeve).

Millions of opiate painkiller prescriptions are written every year, and you don't see all those people driving around recklessly and uncontrollably, do you?

But I know you can't be convinced. Stephen Colbert famously remarked that George W. Bush's style was to "decide something on Monday and firmly stick with his convictions on Wednesday... no matter what happened on Tuesday." It's not just Bush- all of you 'hard-J' people are like that. I guess that's why stop-loss orders exist. Without them your type would just ride every losing position into the ground.

B.R.: You're a 'J' too... but I wouldn't hold that against you. :p Even Ayn Rand was an INTJ.

To see what that's all about, check out this thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62171&highlight=intp

and this quick test:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
 
Quote from BernardRichards:

I am one of the 'C' people = Confused people Rearden Metal. What are P and J people?

I took Vicodin and Percoset on an ongoing basis for severe pain, and I can't understand either why you feel the constant need to use opiates.

The key thing here pointed out by my Pain Management Specialist was to take them for pain only and not for that nice oozy feeling of relaxation.
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Actually I do understand where you are coming from -- been there -- done that, but not with opiates. I crossed the barrier with benzodiazipines because I had a great doctor.

Now my boy, you have to pay the price of going through withdrawal if you want to get off the opiates. There is no other way out!
 
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Now my boy, you have to pay the price of going through withdrawal if you want to get off the opiates. There is no other way out!
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This will surprise you, and perhaps you won't even believe me... but I'm actually 15 months clean.

However, I felt and performed a lot better when I wasn't. At this point, the only thing really holding me back from going back to it is the legal bullshit. I barely escaped a felony conviction the first time, and I just don't like my odds of repeating that feat if I were to get busted once more.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:


B.R.: You're a 'J' too... but I wouldn't hold that against you. :p Even Ayn Rand was an INTJ.

To see what that's all about, check out this thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62171&highlight=intp

and this quick test:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
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R.M.: Now I know what the heck you were talking about. Originally I thought J meant Jesus people, but that didn't make any sense because Vhehn is a hardcore atheist.

I think you are reading too much into the word "Judger." All it means in the Myers-Briggs personality type indicator is that these people prefer a structured approached to life vs. an open/flexible approach for percerveirs. It does not mean that judgers are judgemental.
 
Quote from BernardRichards:

R.M.: Now I know what the heck you were talking about. Originally I thought J meant Jesus people, but that didn't make any sense because Vhehn is a hardcore atheist.

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LMAO :D

INTJ could have meant, INTOJESUS

AHAHAAHAH
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

This will surprise you, and perhaps you won't even believe me... but I'm actually 15 months clean.

However, I felt and performed a lot better when I wasn't. At this point, the only thing really holding me back from going back to it is the legal bullshit. I barely escaped a felony conviction the first time, and I just don't like my odds of repeating that feat if I were to get busted once more.
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Checkout the books on drug addiction by drug addiction specialist, Abraham J. Twerski, medical director of the Gateway Rehabilitation Center. He may have some videos on this online as well.

BTW, if you feel you performed better while you were on the opiates then you haven't completed the withdrawal process.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

This will surprise you, and perhaps you won't even believe me... but I'm actually 15 months clean.

However, I felt and performed a lot better when I wasn't.



Maybe you think that because you FORGET the bad, (no desire for sex, cost, feel bad when the drug wear away)
Maybe Rearden you only think that you are better with the drug, but not really better.
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Quote from trendlover:

Quote from Rearden Metal:

This will surprise you, and perhaps you won't even believe me... but I'm actually 15 months clean.

However, I felt and performed a lot better when I wasn't.



Maybe you think that because you FORGET the bad, (no desire for sex,...
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Quote from Rearden Metal:

... The only way you could even tell would be if you checked the size of my pupils (or if I rolled up a sleeve).

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I was going to ask if the other way to tell was to pull down your draws and see if there was anything substantial there, but I thought better of it :D
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The grandiosity...

I would not be surprised if you were high right now...

Quote from Rearden Metal:

If you spent ten minutes with me while I was using, your entire perspective would shift dramatically, and your media induced 'doped up junkie' stereotype perceptions would fly right out the window. <b>Never</b> nodding off, <b>never</b> itching uncontrollably, <b>never</b> once od'ed. Lucidity and alertness are <b>heightened</b>, not dimmed. The only way you could even tell would be if you checked the size of my pupils (or if I rolled up a sleeve).

Millions of opiate painkiller prescriptions are written every year, and you don't see all those people driving around recklessly and uncontrollably, do you?

But I know you can't be convinced. Stephen Colbert famously remarked that George W. Bush's style was to "decide something on Monday and firmly stick with his convictions on Wednesday... no matter what happened on Tuesday." It's not just Bush- all of you 'hard-J' people are like that. I guess that's why stop-loss orders exist. Without them your type would just ride every losing position into the ground.

B.R.: You're a 'J' too... but I wouldn't hold that against you. :p Even Ayn Rand was an INTJ.

To see what that's all about, check out this thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62171&highlight=intp

and this quick test:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
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