The wonderful city of New York
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Seeing all the crime on these videos is disturbing.
But I also ask myself, what on earth are people doing still living in NYC?
I think alot of New Yorkers still aren't aware of the level of lawlessness there.
Let's be clear. This lawlessness is the fault of Democrats. Plain and simple.
But I also ask myself, what on earth are people doing still living in NYC?
I think alot of New Yorkers still aren't aware of the level of lawlessness there.
Let's be clear. This lawlessness is the fault of Democrats. Plain and simple.
Homicide rate in NYC has been on a steady decline since the mid 1990s as many neighborhoods have been cleaned up and more people living in areas that were once deemed unsafe. Just becaus you see a few news items on crime in NYC does not mean it is the wild west with crime and shootings all over the place. There are over 8 million people living in the City so yes there is crime.
Homicides per 100K is actually higher in the suburbs and rural areas outside the city in the past few years.
Crime ticked up across the board since COVID of course and that is the real sad part ofr most major cities.
But overall NYC is mainly extremely expensive and hard to get around with traffic. that is the main reason I wouldnt live there. Fine to visit but not worth the money to have a closet for an apartment and not able to drive anywhere. The crime got worse but people think it is at its highest levels only becuase thye cherry pick media reports. Homicides peaked in the 1990s.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...w-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america
Homicides per 100K is actually higher in the suburbs and rural areas outside the city in the past few years.
Crime ticked up across the board since COVID of course and that is the real sad part ofr most major cities.
But overall NYC is mainly extremely expensive and hard to get around with traffic. that is the main reason I wouldnt live there. Fine to visit but not worth the money to have a closet for an apartment and not able to drive anywhere. The crime got worse but people think it is at its highest levels only becuase thye cherry pick media reports. Homicides peaked in the 1990s.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...w-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america
People are well justified in feeling like it is turning back into the wild west. Plenty of data to support the recent surge although people can cherry pick data to make various points.
Homicides, for example, are down from this same period last year- but shootings are up. And most major crimes are up bigtime.
People think it is getting worse, and it is. The fact that a lot of people who were shot in the last year did not actually die to make it a homicide is not much comfort.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/01/nyc-m...y-as-part-of-40-jump-in-major-crimes-in-2022/
Jacksonville is the largest Republican-led city in America. Comparing NYC to Jacksonville per 100k residents for the year 2019:
Homicides: 3.39 vs 12.18
Total Violent crime: 538.90 vs 631.32
Total Property crime: 1,448.59 vs 3526.68
Fresno is the largest Republican-led city in CA. It has a higher murder rate than all the Democratic-led cities with a larger population: LA, SD, SJ, and SF. I think it's overly simplistic to say that crime is going up, because liberal politicians are letting criminals run wild and free. Crime is up almost everywhere across both red and blue areas. There's a lot more at play, including real declines in wages and increases in poverty.
Homicides: 3.39 vs 12.18
Total Violent crime: 538.90 vs 631.32
Total Property crime: 1,448.59 vs 3526.68
Fresno is the largest Republican-led city in CA. It has a higher murder rate than all the Democratic-led cities with a larger population: LA, SD, SJ, and SF. I think it's overly simplistic to say that crime is going up, because liberal politicians are letting criminals run wild and free. Crime is up almost everywhere across both red and blue areas. There's a lot more at play, including real declines in wages and increases in poverty.
What happens when you get off the train? You are still in the subway system. you have drawn attention to yourself by exiting from the club car. Criminals are watchful when looking for potential victims.
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Please post or link to your sources. I noticed also, that you continue to use pre-pandemic numbers. Considering the last few years in NYC, that's a big change.
It is not illegal per se. It depends how stop and frisk is conducted.
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The frisk is also called a Terry Stop, derived from the Supreme Court case Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968). Terry held that a stop-and-frisk must comply with the Fourth Amendment, meaning that the stop-and-frisk cannot be unreasonable."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
It is up, but it's up across the board:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...ies-understanding-recent-trends-violent-crime
Even with NYC's numbers up it's easy to see it's still much safer than average. Everything is within the city limits unless said otherwise. I'm not sure why you keep posting singular events of a city of almost 9 million people when there's murder among any state with 9 million people almost every single day. There's no statistical evidence that NYC is an unsafe city by American standards.