The wonderful city of New York

El OchoCinco said:
Well you said the only person who will have a gun is the bad guy. I know it takes 2-3x longer in NYC to get a gun but if you want a gun to carry in your car for self defense in NYC you can get one, especially now sC struck down the more restrictive requirements.

You mentioned an armed robbery which means the guy attempting to rob you has a gun and is threatening you with deadly force. Both in Florida and NY you can use deadly force if you feel an imminent threat of deadly force to be used against you.

I would say a guy trying to get into your car with a gun counts in both states.
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It's not only 2-3x longer, but far more difficult. And if you shoot someone in NYC even in obvious self-defense, you're just as likely to get arrested/prosecuted yourself.
 
Overnight said:
Indeed, I am conflating the two bits. The legal use of deadly force and the ease of getting permits are two separate issues between those states.

The EASE of getting the permits across those three are vastly different, just like the deadly-force-use cases between the two states.
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Florida Castle Law extends to a vehicle. But it really rests in the ease of getting a gun, and the ability to defend one's actions when defending oneself with it.

Shoot someone in Florida who was trying to rob you in your car and the police come and take the body of the dead guy and ask you to give your phone number in case they have questions. That's basically it. Hell, we have County Sheriffs telling people in press conferences that if they try to rob people, they're going to get shot - and "we encourage that." Any criminal trying robbery here (armed or not) is either desperate or really fucking dumb. There's a better than average chance they are going out in a bag.

Shoot someone in NYC and see how it goes, even if you are obviously in the right.
 
When tax cuts for the rich ,military spending, etc is more important to a nation than education,poverty,wealth inequality,healthcare etc these are the results.

Evil is to be expected in an evil country.
 
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