The wonderful city of New York
- Thread starter Tsing Tao
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Both New York and Florida have concealed gun permit requirements so I would assume a new Yorker can have a gun in their car just like a floridian...
Uh, ok. This is a topic I'm pretty well versed on. Would you like to discuss just how difficult it is to get a gun permit to keep a firearm in your car in both states? And then lets also discuss Stand Your Ground and determine that, if the person in the car actually shot someone, what would happen to them legally in NYC and in Florida - any city.
Well you said the only person who will have a gun is the bad guy. I know it takes 2-3x longer in NYC to get a gun but if you want a gun to carry in your car for self defense in NYC you can get one, especially now sC struck down the more restrictive requirements.
You mentioned an armed robbery which means the guy attempting to rob you has a gun and is threatening you with deadly force. Both in Florida and NY you can use deadly force if you feel an imminent threat of deadly force to be used against you.
I would say a guy trying to get into your car with a gun counts in both states.
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FL - A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
NY - Deadly physical force which is the type of force that is capable of causing a serious physical injury or death is not permitted unless a person reasonable believes that deadly physical force is being used or is about to be used on himself, herself or a third person.
FL has no duty to retreat but I dont think it matters when you are trapped in your car and someone is trying to get in with a gun pointed at you.
NY - Deadly physical force which is the type of force that is capable of causing a serious physical injury or death is not permitted unless a person reasonable believes that deadly physical force is being used or is about to be used on himself, herself or a third person.
FL has no duty to retreat but I dont think it matters when you are trapped in your car and someone is trying to get in with a gun pointed at you.
That forcible felony definition from FL is incredible. Look it up, it covers so much ground. Legally, you can shoot someone to death if they are a convict trying to escape a private prison, or trying to steal your car, for example.
By statute it is legal, how that may hold in a trial is different, but the fact that it exists is remarkable.
It is quite distinct from NYS law, and ever more so from NYC law. Simply put, you cannot get a NYC gun permit period, unless you have to carry large sums of money in the street to make bank deposits.
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OP is a dumb ass. Crime rates in Tampa Bay are only minimally better then New York City.
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It is legal to possess a loaded firearm in your vehicle with a New York Pistol License (NYPL) only. A New York City Pistol License is required in NYC.
Indeed, I am conflating the two bits. The legal use of deadly force and the ease of getting permits are two separate issues between those states.
The EASE of getting the permits across those three are vastly different, just like the deadly-force-use cases between the two states.