The Trump presidency is in a hole

Nine_Ender · Apr 1, 2017

java said:
The only thing wrong with that is I already heard all of this in 2016.

You like Trump's results ? You get to spend on that wall, invest in a larger military; your health premiums won't get smaller. If you work in tourism, government, or import/export heavy businesses, your job may be in trouble and I'm not sure where all these people get hired. Perhaps in military or construction, the new growth industries under Trump.

Yes, you heard a lot in 2016. What did you hear from Trump concerning health care premiums, your taxes, and the GDP expectations he had ? Look, he's your guy, I get it, but what I don't get is why you like him. Are you in an industry that will benefit from his new policies ? Or are you part of the rich in the US, the one group that without a doubt will do very well under Trump ?

AAAintheBeltway · Apr 1, 2017

piezoe said:
and it worked last time. But how many Trump enthusiasts will be left by 2020? I imagine about as many as Trump University graduates that want to sign up for post graduate work.

I doubt there will be much movement. The Trump hate is concentrated in states no republican is going to carry. He remains quite popular in the rest of the country. Voters blame republicucks in congress, not Trump. They can see what Trump is up against, with disloyal assholes like McCain and Ryan, a media that no longer even pretend to be objective and out of control tyrant judges exposing the country to terrorism.

java · Apr 1, 2017

Nine_Ender said:
You like Trump's results ? You get to spend on that wall, invest in a larger military; your health premiums won't get smaller. If you work in tourism, government, or import/export heavy businesses, your job may be in trouble and I'm not sure where all these people get hired. Perhaps in military or construction, the new growth industries under Trump.

Yes, you heard a lot in 2016. What did you hear from Trump concerning health care premiums, your taxes, and the GDP expectations he had ? Look, he's your guy, I get it, but what I don't get is why you like him. Are you in an industry that will benefit from his new policies ? Or are you part of the rich in the US, the one group that without a doubt will do very well under Trump ?

There you go again. You think people only vote for benefits. Part of the elite benefit culture. I like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and you or the government can't give it to me. It's not a benefit like healthcare. It's a right. The peoples job is to vote to protect against the infringement by the government or anybody else on our rights. Anything more is just bullshit Canadian Communism.

Nine_Ender · Apr 1, 2017

java said:
There you go again. You think people only vote for benefits. Part of the elite benefit culture. I like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and you or the government can't give it to me. It's not a benefit like healthcare. It's a right. The peoples job is to vote to protect against the infringement by the government or anybody else on our rights. Anything more is just bullshit Canadian Communism.

You sound young and inexperienced, but it hardly matters to me. Trump is your guy and you'll get whatever he brings to the US. The red flags are there but you ignored them.

java · Apr 1, 2017

Nine_Ender said:
You sound young and inexperienced, but it hardly matters to me. Trump is your guy and you'll get whatever he brings to the US. The red flags are there but you ignored them.

I survived Obama and I didn't even get a hat. I won't get anything from any president. How will paying attention to your red flags improve life for anybody? Is that the new message? PLEASE WORRY!!! ??? You have not yet convinced me your fears are grounded because you have not explained what it is he is going to bring to the USA. So just keep waving those red flags and put a maple leaf on it while you're at it. Trump has brought patriotism back to our country. Should I be worried?

trendlover · Apr 1, 2017

java said:
I like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and you or the government can't give it to me. It's not a benefit like healthcare. It's a right.
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There is not "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" if you are sick. Healthcare is the right, not the benefit.

java · Apr 2, 2017

Healthcare is dependent on others, namely me to pay for your healthcare. A right is inalienable. Nobody can give it to you and nobody has to pay for my rights. If you make me sick, then you should pay for it. Not because it is my right, but because you damaged me. The government cannot interfere with your right to life but it shouldn't make me pay for your healthcare. What if you don't like your doctor, do you have a right to see another doctor? What if the other doctor doesn't want to see you? Can the government make him treat you because it is your right? What about his rights comrade?

smallStops · Apr 2, 2017

A society is like a family : when one member of a family is ill, others help.
The same way normally when living in a society.

piezoe · Apr 2, 2017

fhl said:
All i've heard since nov 8 is that the voters are stupid.

Not the majority of voters. Just the minority!

piezoe · Apr 2, 2017

AAAintheBeltway said:
disloyal assholes like McCain and Ryan, a media that no longer even pretend to be objective and out of control tyrant judges exposing the country to terrorism.

This statement is very curious to me , because this is precisely the message that the organized Russian hackers are promoting through social media. Very, very interesting!!! To say the least!
Apparently it is working for them. There main objective seems to be discrediting of the U.S. media -- try to get the American public to discount everything the mainstream media reports. Your post is just one of many that tells me they are being successful. Amazing!