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once you understand that TA is subjective, regardless of what those pushing agendas tell you--- one persons buy signal is anothers sell...... you have taken the first step in understanding the dynamics at work.

best,

surf
I will give you that TA is relative, but it is not subjective.
The results are actionable, and can be used to produce consistent gains, unlike your cool richochet shot here. :D

JJ
 
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I will give you that TA is relative, but it is not subjective.
The results are actionable, and can be used to produce consistent gains, unlike your cool ricochet shot here. :D

JJ


1.right.

2. wrong.

3. right.

4. wrong.

5. thank you

what you need to understand JJ is, all this constant whatever bars and other ways of smoothing data, when tested objectively FAIL to produce again and again. you can see right here on elite, when challenged, proprietors, promotors and vendors of such things back down to EVERY challenge, issue threats, and twist words. what does this tell you??

think, man, think.

surf
 
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how about some calls prior to the fact. posting the entry prior to the fact, in fact, do it right here on the "surf report" for verification.

the pretty, smoothed, averaged charts illustrating the past may make nice wall decorations, but i fail to see their worth otherwise.

surf

I have but you ignore those calls. Your selective rants like you are getting old.
 
If nothing else, kudos for posting real time trades. I've been posting some up on the es journal thread. Most are just hindsight traders around these parts.

Good luck Surf.
 
Quote from JimmyJam:

Now is that really necessary?

Such words, and here I thought we were the fount of civility. :p

Don't take it personal T-Dog, the breakout trades can work quite well when they have momentum behind them.

JJ
Help me out here. What is it about you that reminds me of raw sewage? Your lies are bald-faced, and you repeatedly refer to a non-existent track record.

And while we're at it, is there any truth to the rumor that you were conceived in a truck stop restroom and that your mother couldn't pick your father out in a lineup? (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Unlike you, I won't present it as fact until I have your say-so.
 
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Help me out here. What is it about you that reminds me of raw sewage? Your lies are bald-faced, and you repeatedly refer to a non-existent track record.

And while we're at it, is there any truth to the rumor that you were conceived in a truck stop restroom and that your mother couldn't pick your father out in a lineup? (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Unlike you, I won't present it as fact until I have your say-so.
Well the meds have finally worn-off, ay Thunder Dog?

Ah, now that over half the site knows you're a total nut job in the making - I even received PM's about you after you started that thread, people wanted to know if you were a 14 year old kid and what did I do to you. :p

Poor little internet sap, getting so upset about your failed breakout trades that you had to go and start a thread that unanimously made you look more like a fool that was 10 times worse than anything I ever did to ya. :D

Nah, you don't do breakout trades at all little buddy, your trading technique includes cold fusion. :eek:
T-Dog's Cold Fusion Trades

Whew! somebody's really missing a few upstairs. :p

Please continue taking those meds your mom gives you when you're sipping on your kool-aid.

JJ

P.S. And I don't care what your mom says, I am in no way, shape or form responsible for your psychotic episode earlier today, and I will not split the docotor's bills with her. :mad:
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

how about some calls prior to the fact. posting the entry prior to the fact, in fact, do it right here on the "surf report" for verification.

the pretty, smoothed, averaged charts illustrating the past may make nice wall decorations, but i fail to see their worth otherwise.

surf

I have been posting real-time on DAX thread and on my Histogram thread, only TA, winning ratio is pretty good. I will agree with you that TA can be/is subjective, so what? Are you saying TA traders are doomed?
 
Quote from JimmyJam:

Well the meds have finally worn-off, ay Thunder Dog?

Ah, now that over half the site knows you're a total nut job in the making - I even received PM's about you after you started that thread, people wanted to know if you were a 14 year old kid and what did I do to you. :p

Poor little internet sap, getting so upset about your failed breakout trades that you had to go and start a thread that unanimously made you look more like a fool that was 10 times worse than anything I ever did to ya. :D

Nah, you don't do breakout trades at all little buddy, your trading technique includes cold fusion. :eek:
T-Dog's Cold Fusion Trades

Whew! somebody's really missing a few upstairs. :p

Please continue taking those meds your mom gives you when you're sipping on your kool-aid.

JJ

P.S. And I don't care what your mom says, I am in no way, shape or form responsible for your psychotic episode earlier today, and I will not split the docotor's bills with her. :mad:
More to the point, you did not deny the rumors of your origin.
 
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More to the point, you did not deny the rumors of your origin.
Will I Go Crazy?

What Is Psychosis?

Is this article going to be about psychotic persons?

No! There are no psychotic persons, no psychotic killers, no psychotic rapists. The word "psychotic" can't possibly describe a human being.

Psychosis is a temporary mental state. A person experiences a psychotic state for a while, then they come out of it. No one is born psychotic. Psychosis is not a personality trait.

A. Characteristics of Psychotic Episodes

B. Manifestations of Psychotic Episodes

C. FAQs About Psychosis

A. Characteristics of Psychotic Episodes

One or more of the following six things usually characterizes a psychotic episode:

1. an underlying chemical imbalance which makes the person vulnerable.

2. a trigger: something the person perceives as very stressful.

3. a history. We all have histories, of course.

4. a distinct change in the thought process. Your thinking is just fine -- until the psychotic episode begins. Episodes usually begin pretty quickly. They tend to taper off gradually.

5. pain. There is no happy psychotic episode. There is no neutral psychotic episode. Enduring a psychotic episode hurts like hell. We're talking about raw fear here.

Think back to the last time you were really afraid. Either your mind was busy trying to find a way out of the situation or it was trying to make you feel better, as in, "This dental work will be over soon." When you are experiencing psychosis, you are afraid, and your mind is what is creating the fear. Your mind just makes the terror worse, telling you that you are such a bad person that you actually deserve this horrible pain. If your mind does try to make you feel better, it does it in a misguided way, by creating delusions of grandeur.

6. lack of understanding of the real world. I have trouble with the phrase "out of touch with reality". You are quite aware of what's going on around you. In fact, you are hypersensitive, able to detect the slightest change in people's expressions.

B. Manifestations of Psychotic Episodes

A typical psychotic episode manifests itself in one or more of the three following ways:

1. Hallucinations: believing something is there that actually is not there. Hearing something strange and knowing that it is strange is not a hallucination. The hallucinator perceives the voice; their brain says, "That's Dad calling me," with no doubt at all. The non-hallucinator hears the voice and says, "Could that possibly be Dad calling me? But he moved out a year ago." If you are not sure what you heard or even if you wonder if it is a hallucination, it is not a hallucination. A hallucinator is absolutely positive (though they may have their doubts later on). So, during a psychotic episode, you usually "hear voices."

2. Delusions: believing something is true that couldn't possibly be true. I'm not talking about believing that Bill Clinton never had sex with Monica Lewinsky. I'm talking about physical impossibilities or grandiose ideas such as believing that you were born on Mars or that you are Jesus Christ come back to life.

The most common delusion is paranoia: fear that gets way out of hand. You may be constantly afraid that bad things will happen to you or that people will hurt or betray you. You may pick up your gun every time you answer the door.

3. Problems With Communication

Probably the most common thing that happens during a psychotic episode is that you have a lot of trouble talking straight. Your words and sentences get garbled -- all mixed up like a "word salad." Each individual phrase or sentence makes sense, but they are out of order and you never quite get to the point.


C. FAQs About Psychosis

Be careful not to confuse the people who endure psychotic episodes with their symptoms. The symptoms are devastating. The people are good people struggling to keep living and loving through it all.

Q. Are hallucinations, delusions, and "word-salad speech" symptoms of psychotic episodes, of mental illness, or both?

A. They're symptoms of psychotic episodes only. Not all persons diagnosed with mental illness have psychotic episodes. So not every mentally ill person experiences hallucinations, delusions, or severe difficulty talking.

Q. Can you look at people (or yourself) and see symptoms of mental illness? of psychosis?

A. Mental illness? No chance. There is no way of walking, no way of talking that tells you definitely that somebody is mentally ill, unless, maybe, you are a psychiatrist. The rest of us will just have to trust psychiatrists' judgment on who is and is not mentally ill.

Psychosis? That can sometimes be easy to spot. If a person trapped in a psychotic episode comes out and tells you about his or her hallucinations or delusions, it can become pretty clear that they have psychiatric problems. A good rule of thumb is: Don't try to diagnose anyone unless it is necessary for survival.

A long time ago, on a bus late at night, I saw a woman several seats behind me who was clearly coping with a psychotic episode. I was afraid of her and got off the bus as fast as I could. Now I know that she was much more afraid than I was. Just because she was talking in a garbled way to no one I could see did not mean she would or could ever hurt me. The primary emotion in any psychotic episode is fear.

Q. Are you saying that, even if a person kills during psychosis, they never experience any emotion but fear?

A. Not at all. I'm saying that emotions are very complicated during psychosis.

In order for you, a person who is not undergoing psychosis (assuming you are not a hit person!), to get to where you kill somebody, you need to (1)be very angry, (2)decide to get revenge, and (3)kill the person. A severely mentally ill person who kills goes through exactly the same stages, unless the stress involved happens to trigger a psychotic episode.

Psychosis throws out all the rules. Under psychotic conditions, the anger can be repressed, converted to fear, glee, or any other emotion, exaggerated into an overarching hatred for the whole universe, or you name it. In psychosis, your anger melds with what the trigger person did to you to initiate disorganized thinking. Then that thinking may or may not compel you to kill. :eek:

If you do kill, you may well kill someone other than the trigger person. :p - looks like I'm safe. You probably won't kill at all. Thousands of people have undergone psychotic episodes. Only a tiny percentage of these people have killed anyone, and the vast majority of these latter killed themselves. no T-Dog don't do it! ... well, OK, if you must. :D

During a psychotic episode, you are just as good and just as smart as you ever were. But you are trapped in a frighteningly chaotic brain that is turning against its very owner. And you can't even have the comfort of telling anybody how bad you feel.

Added to that is the knowledge that you have been cursed, for some inexplicable reason, with the most humiliating of all possible diseases.

Poor guy,

JJ
 
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