THE Super Ultra Wealthy Man can see the future, he sees horror ahead

[xelite777]

The problem is not Democrat or Republican or even the government itself. The problem is that we can't decide just what it is we want as a people, which is one reason why the schools have been fucked for so long and why they get progressively (no pun intended) worse with each passing year.

All the problems on this planet come from a simple fact: a small but extremely powerful elite controls every freaking aspect of our life. And this control will become bigger and bigger in the future, until we are totally enslaved by the coming so-called "New World Order".

Please, please, stop thinking that we are living in a democracy, this is only an illusion on a worldwide scale.

 

[FireWalker]

I am not making this anything, since I didn't start using the "left/right" terminology. I used it in response. In general, I sorta agree with this, although I think if you keep track of what people say, you should be able to tell whether they're consistent.

Yes, I agree with this wholeheartedly, hence my suggestion regarding the tax code.

Firstly, again, I am not sure why you're addressing me personally as if I belong to the "political left". Secondly, of course, I am familiar with the example you're offering here (Godwin's Law always triumphs, it seems), but I could say something very similar about the peculiar insistence of the "political right" on the central bank issue. My personal opinion is that everything is good in moderation and it's always a balancing act between the two extremes. Where that balance lies is a matter of judgement and there's bound to be disagreements, such as the one we're discussing.

Well, all you need is to get Congress to change the Fed's mandate and they'll be able to do this, I'm sure...

Getting 500+ people to agree on something and educate them on the complex subject of money is difficult.

Class-action lawsuit against the Fed to only use existing assets when buying new bonds fixes the root of the problem. All Americans are plaintiffs.

 

[Martinghoul]

Martin, I find when I speaking to someone it's easier to speak to "them" then to speak to them but refer to the overall populace. Makes communication a bit easier don't ya think?

Martin, you talk about changing this and changing that, having balance, holding hands, blah, blah, blah. Next thing you are going to tell me is that it depends on what the meaning of "is" is (Clinton reference). You are a natural politician Martin. LOL. Why don't you specifically state how you would go about solving the problems. And again, I'm referring to you because it's easier to have a dialogue with a person vs the general population.

I have already talked about the approach that I personally prefer. It all starts and ends with certain political decisions, unfortunately, which makes me very pessimistic.

 

[FireWalker]

I have already talked about the approach that I personally prefer. It all starts and ends with certain political decisions, unfortunately, which makes me very pessimistic.

Suggestion: talk with your local congressman about specific solutions. Then chronicle it here. You might find back up.

 

[Martinghoul]

Suggestion: talk with your local congressman about specific solutions. Then chronicle it here. You might find back up.

My local congressman? I ain't got one, I'm afraid. What I have got is my local MP, so I don't think this is really gonna work...

 

[dbphoenix]

My local congressman? I ain't got one, I'm afraid. What I have got is my local MP, so I don't think this is really gonna work...

You can always curl up with a bowl of popcorn and 2012 and/or Life After People.

 

[kinggyppo]

Martin, capitalists and socialists of high net worth are one and the same. Very much like Wall Street. When the call options are in the money, they are capitalists. When they expire worthless, suddenly they are socialists. Martin, people become what they need to become to survive. That hasn't changed in thousands of years. If you want to make this red state/blue state it's your prerogative.

To be fair Martin, let me be a little more clear about where I'm coming from here. I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories. I don't think "anyone" is behind the curtain so to speak. Instead what I believe happens is, people of means take advantage of what is presented to them. The Fed does what they do. And the uber rich exploit that. The Uber rich exploit government. They exploit loopholes. They exploit information. It's what they do. It's what they always have done. There doesn't need to be any secret handshakes or membership of the freemasonry.

This is precisely why I believe the best solution is to make sure they have nothing to exploit. It's why I prefer gov't small. It's why I prefer the Fed to be seen and not heard. It's why I think "too big to fail" is bullshit. I always find it odd that the political left wants to empower gov't then acts shocked when a starving artist from Austria takes that power and runs with it. You be careful Martin feeding those cute small wild animals. When they get big enough, they seem to conveniently forget who fed them. They don't bite the hand that feeds them Martin. They eat them. It's in their nature.

People become what they need to to survive, those bailouts were proof that everyone likes a handout now and then. People love free as well!

 

[SIUYA]

For a little bit more lateral thinking about spending efficiently and not trying to solve all the worlds tax problems with huge broad ideas, and given many western nations spend 30-60% of their budgets on welfare and health.
I thought this might interest some.
http://www.voxeu.org/article/psychological-therapy-costs-nothing

For those who want to scrap the govt, taxes and think people are naturally lazy if they dont succeed in life etc; etc; - hint - dont waste your time reading it it will miss the mark with you.
enjoy the weekend

 

[volpunter]

you sure, my man, have a lot of time on your hand these days. 55 pages and still going, lol. Low vol biting your ass this year? Sidelined?

My local congressman? I ain't got one, I'm afraid. What I have got is my local MP, so I don't think this is really gonna work...

 

[Martinghoul]

you sure, my man, have a lot of time on your hand these days. 55 pages and still going, lol. Low vol biting your ass this year? Sidelined?

Don't you worry about poor ole me, I'll be just fine... And yeah, it's been a little more boring and quiet recently than normal, but certainly not to the point where I'd be sidelined. There's always opportunities if you're willing to do the necessary work.