THE Super Ultra Wealthy Man can see the future, he sees horror ahead

[Eurokopek]

Volpunter

It is actually much much MUCH worse than you realize.

You believe you are talking to another person like you and me on the other side.

NO

Martinghoul and Maverick and Pizoe and maybe 3 others, are most likely part of the Government Internet Posting program. If you never heard of it, that's because Mainstream media doesn't report it.

Every large chat and board website has government paid posters, whose job is to toe the party line, be it for FED, or government, or protecting the Status Quo

For example Martinghoul IS INFAMOUS ON ET for protecting ALWAYS all actions of the FED, and always obfuscating when directly exposed both in logic and data, facts.

Don't waste your time. You are talking to degenerates paid to betray their own citizens.

And by the way to top it off, Maverick is a Jewish Zionist, this guy is one of those guys who donates to State of Israel so they can continue enlarging their borders and pretending Palestinians don't exist LOL

Ask Maverick what he thinks of the fact that more than a Trillion of US money by now was freely given to Israel in cash and hardware. They will never pay US back and will involve US in more dirty wars.

See what maverick says to that, Ask him if he has dual citizenship like many US congressmen.

aahhhh.........I will so enjoy US downfall. It is only a matter of time.

Great post, bud. You are the light of ET to clear our minds and save our souls from the shills. Unfortunately, the situation is far far worse than you imagine.

Never forget that Obama is a muslim conceived by a reptilian who will act as an obedient puppet for the Bilderberg Group to strenghten the New World Order. The fractional reserve banking cheats countries to exchange the precious metals for the worthless paper. Yet, this is nowhere as troubling as the continuation of a huge number of government programmes to enslave the population and treat it the same you would treat livestock. Drugs? Exactly what you need to keep population from developing healthy lifestyle. By 2000 heroin usage was going down, so the US government decided to intervene, and conducted a false flag 9/11 operation to have a reason to invade Afghanistan and put opium production under the government control. Just check opium production numbers! AIDS and creation of diseases? Largely a lapse on the government side with development of psychological warfare. Other projects like water fluoridation have had more success. Unlike severe health problems in case of AIDS and bird flu, water fluoridation indeed reduces the tooth decay.. at a cost of irreversible chemical changes in the brain to make us more receptive to the messages from authorities. The next logical step is installation of chips in our heads to gain full control over us. Successful experiments have been carried out by the Israelis by installing chips in sharks and vultures to carry out attacks against civilians in Egypt.

Of course, the government will always play down those concerns. They still refuse to admit regular government contact with aliens and zealously guard the site of their masters in Area 51 from the public sight. Never forget that the ultimate goal is the destroyal of the white race and creation of a single Jewish Caliphate under the rule of the Pope.

 

[Humpy]

The only major enemy of Israel left in the Middle East, able to do anything is Iran. So they are next on the hit list of the USA.
The USA has bankrupted itself in it's love affair with Israel. Iraq and Syria are both in total disarray thanks to US intervention. Egypt now is controlled by the US funded military. The US even keeps very quiet while there are mass executions of a democratically elected Government supporters.
Their crime was to protest in the streets.

It should be obvious to a money grubbing plutocracy like the US, that the money ( oil ) is in Arab hands, so why continue supporting Israel ?

 

[volpunter]

And this is exactly why anyone who is seriously questioning the heritage of antisemitism yet fully acknowledges the historic facts, the right to self-defend its country,... is thrown in the same bucket as those who post lies and hearsay about Israel and Jews. I strongly distance myself from the above three posts. But I do not distance myself from the right to research and debate the Jewish ethnicity and its impact on politics, economics, finances, and other topics. I am not afraid to participate in a heated discussion as long as one sticks to facts rather than rhetoric. Go and research the philanthropic reports of the richest 1% with Jewish roots and check out who the recipient was and how much was given and you end up with a stark contrast between the profiles of those of Jewish descent and those without any Jewish lineage. Those that are considered Jews have an extremely poor track record to giving to anyone either outside the Jewish communities or organizations in Israel. One could argue that the same is true for Christians who mostly donate to Christian organizations. However, the big difference is this: Most Christian organizations (other than possibly the Roman Catholic church and one could argue this) are perusing most of the funding they receive through donations to causes that are can be described as reaching out to "non-believers" and the truly needy regardless of their belief system while the funding within Jewish communities and "charitable organizations" is almost exclusively used to benefit the Jewish community itself. Does not make a difference ? Well, I beg to differ. If this was a much more competitive world and if hypothetically speaking some new "uber rich" were all of non-Jewish ethnicity and only donated to causes that do not benefit Jews very soon pretty much all the homeless under the bridges of the world would be of Jewish ethnicity because relatively speaking everyone ele around them would do relatively better out of their own effort or due to some "benevolent backers with intent pulling certain strings". This is in fact exactly what is happening for centuries, that Jewish communities very successfully made it their philosophy to lift any and every Jew out of poverty back into influential positions with the direct intent to apply favoritism and preferential treatments to "Jews only" . Nothing antisemitic about what I said, I think I simply recite common sense and facts.

 

[Eurokopek]

And this is exactly why anyone who is seriously questioning the heritage of antisemitism yet fully acknowledges the historic facts, the right to self-defend its country,... is thrown in the same bucket as those who post lies and hearsay about Israel and Jews. I strongly distance myself from the above three posts. But I do not distance myself from the right to research and debate the Jewish ethnicity and its impact on politics, economics, finances, and other topics. I am not afraid to participate in a heated discussion as long as one sticks to facts rather than rhetoric. Go and research the philanthropic reports of the richest 1% with Jewish roots and check out who the recipient was and how much was given and you end up with a stark contrast between the profiles of those of Jewish descent and those without any Jewish lineage. Those that are considered Jews have an extremely poor track record to giving to anyone either outside the Jewish communities or organizations in Israel. One could argue that the same is true for Christians who mostly donate to Christian organizations. However, the big difference is this: Most Christian organizations (other than possibly the Roman Catholic church and one could argue this) are perusing most of the funding they receive through donations to causes that are can be described as reaching out to "non-believers" and the truly needy regardless of their belief system while the funding within Jewish communities and "charitable organizations" is almost exclusively used to benefit the Jewish community itself. Does not make a difference ? Well, I beg to differ. If this was a much more competitive world and if hypothetically speaking some new "uber rich" were all of non-Jewish ethnicity and only donated to causes that do not benefit Jews very soon pretty much all the homeless under the bridges of the world would be of Jewish ethnicity because relatively speaking everyone ele around them would do relatively better out of their own effort or due to some "benevolent backers with intent pulling certain strings". This is in fact exactly what is happening for centuries, that Jewish communities very successfully made it their philosophy to lift any and every Jew out of poverty back into influential positions with the direct intent to apply favoritism and preferential treatments to "Jews only" . Nothing antisemitic about what I said, I think I simply recite common sense and facts.

What are those reports that Jews aren't likely to donate? Why don't you show the reports to us?

What I did was go to google, find top 50 philanthropists for 2013. I was lazy to go through 50, but out of 25 people in the list 11 (44%) have jewish background. Collectively they have paid out 2.8b out of 6.3b paid out by top 25 (also 44%). I clicked on individual profiles and apart from 1 or 2 names, none of those individuals paid money to charities for jewish causes.

Moreover, 2.8b represents 0.8% of all charitable givings in 2013. Jewish population is 1.8% of the US population. I struggle to see how Jews altogether do not make donations unless you believe that apart from those 11 everyone else donates to synagogues and state of Israel.

 

[volpunter]

" I clicked on individual profiles and apart from 1 or 2 names, none of those individuals paid money to charities for jewish causes." -> Can you show me one example?

What are those reports that Jews aren't likely to donate? Why don't you show the reports to us?

What I did was go to google, find top 50 philanthropists for 2013. I was lazy to go through 50, but out of 25 people in the list 11 (44%) have jewish background. Collectively they have paid out 2.8b out of 6.3b paid out by top 25 (also 44%). I clicked on individual profiles and apart from 1 or 2 names, none of those individuals paid money to charities for jewish causes.

Moreover, 2.8b represents 0.8% of all charitable givings in 2013. Jewish population is 1.8% of the US population. I struggle to see how Jews altogether do not make donations unless you believe that apart from those 11 everyone else donates to synagogues and state of Israel.

 

[Eurokopek]

" I clicked on individual profiles and apart from 1 or 2 names, none of those individuals paid money to charities for jewish causes." -> Can you show me one example?

I just gave you a link. Do you have troubles clicking "read profile" and reading where the money went to? I shall summarize my findings for one-cell organisms not capable of doing that:

Non-jewish causes: Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Brin, Broad, Rubenstein, Weill, Schwarzman, Koch, Perelman
Block: Albert Einstein College of Medicine at Yeshiva University, though I would argue it's not for benefit of jews only either.
Jacobs: Jewish Community Foundation of San Diego, San Diego Public Library foundation (will you now say that only jews visit the library too?)

Sure, you can probably find a 1m allocation to a Jewish museum, but I'd rather focus on the largest allocations.

Now show me your report.

 

[volpunter]

Looool, you gotta be kidding me right? Most of the guys on your list donated to causes that directly benefit themselves and their circles, either through political campaign donations or into entities that all but ensure future kickbacks.

Can you put up an alternative list that details donations by Jews that truly benefited the most needy in our societies. Multi million if not billion donations to support causes that support the advances in treating major diseases, that target addicts in our society, that target the poorest of the poor? Or maybe you can explain why hardly any Jewish billionaire is willing to join the drive by some of the biggest billionaire philanthropists on this earth to basically pledge half of their wealth to a cause that set as its core goals to improve the livelihood of the most needy in this world? Emphasis is on "hardly" because I know of 2 that are part of this huge project.

Sorry but a donation by Koch (to just name one single example) to further their goals to kill every last existing democrat so they can keep all their remaining loopholes open does not count as true giving, I guess we are kind of on the same page I hope?

P.S.: Zuckerberg's donation to the Silicon Valley Community Foundation is a laudable exception, one among very very few that truly target those most in need. I do not consider a "payment" a donation that all but ensures future returns and kickbacks. And I guess most would agree.

I just gave you a link. Do you have troubles clicking "read profile" and reading where the money went to? I shall summarize my findings for one-cell organisms not capable of doing that:

Non-jewish causes: Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Brin, Broad, Rubenstein, Weill, Schwarzman, Koch, Perelman
Block: Albert Einstein College of Medicine at Yeshiva University, though I would argue it's not for benefit of jews only either.
Jacobs: Jewish Community Foundation of San Diego, San Diego Public Library foundation (will you now say that only jews visit the library too?)

Sure, you can probably find a 1m allocation to a Jewish museum, but I'd rather focus on the largest allocations.

Now show me your report.

 

[Eurokopek]

Looool, you gotta be kidding me right? Most of the guys on your list donated to causes that directly benefit themselves and their circles, either through political campaign donations or into entities that all but ensure future kickbacks.

Can you put up an alternative list that details donations by Jews that truly benefited the most needy in our societies. Multi million if not billion donations to support causes that support the advances in treating major diseases, that target addicts in our society, that target the poorest of the poor?

Sorry but a donation by Koch (to just name one single example) to further their goals to kill every last existing democrat so they can keep all their remaining loopholes open does not count as true giving, I guess we are kind of on the same page I hope?

You were originally saying that Jews donate money to Jewish foundations and state of Israel. I pointed out that it's not the case. Now you are moving the goalposts and saying donations to libraries, universities and think tanks do not count.

As you singled out Koch, as an exception I will copy paste his 2013 donation:

After 25 years as a member of the hospital’s Board of Trustees, Mr. Koch pledged $100-million to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital for a new building that will house an outpatient care center. The facility will be named for Mr. Koch, who said he plans to pay $10-million a year for a decade to fulfill his pledge.
Mr. Koch also gave the hospital $1-million to support research on prostate cancer, a disease he has battled for many years.

Now, enough with your mumbo-jumbo bullshit, and show me the report that Jews do not donate outside their community.

 

[volpunter]

I never claimed to have such report, the problem with some of you is that you either cannot read or listen carefully.

And re Koch, let's dig deeper into the motivations here and questionable record of some of the institutions he "gave" to:

The Koch brothers, who are not Catholic, have actively thrown their wealth behind conservative and libertarian political causes and candidates that reflect their desire for smaller government, lower taxes, fewer regulations on business and less oversight of the financial markets. They have backed Tea Party organizations, anti-union initiatives, and opposed environmental regulations. Koch Industries was founded as an oil company, and energy remains its core business. The Kochs have also donated to universities to establish programs in business and related endeavors, and the CUA letter cites reports of “unacceptable meddling in academic content and the hiring process of faculty” by the Koch foundation.

and further

“With most of the annual tax filings for nondisclosing nonprofits now in, it's clear that no other conservative or liberal dark money network matched, in combined size and complexity, the constellation of Koch-linked groups that churned hundreds of millions of dollars into elections around the country last year.”

then

"From direct political influence and robust lobbying to nonprofit policy research and advocacy, and even increasingly in academia and the broader public “marketplace of ideas,” this extensive, cross-sector Koch club or network appears to be unprecedented in size, scope and funding. And the relationship between these for-profit and nonprofit entities is often mutually reinforcing to the direct financial and political interests of the behemoth corporation — broadly characterized as deregulation, limited government and free markets."

and most interestingly:
For example, in 2011 and 2012, Koch Industries Public Sector LLC, the lobbying arm of Koch Industries, advocated for the Energy Tax Prevention Act, which would have rolled back the Supreme Court’s ruling that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) could regulate greenhouse gases. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., and co-signed by 92 Republicans (and three Democrats), 61 of whom signed an anti-climate tax “pledge.” An economist with the American Council for Capital Formation — a nonprofit group that receives Koch money — testified about that same bill before the House Energy and Commerce Committee. Margo Thorning told members of the House in February 2011 that regulation of greenhouse gas emissions “makes little economic or environmental sense,” according to her testimony.

Fuck, "reductions of greenhouse gas emissions makes little environmental sense"???????????

-> So, tell me whether I understand correctly. Almost every recipient of Koch's dollars had something to say that benefited Koch directly, some of the recipients seem to be experts on environmental issues despite the fact they directly contradict what the world's vast majority of leading researchers have to say about greenhouse gas emissions? Funny.

How about this:

"There were similar confluences of interest, with Koch foundation-funded, tax-exempt nonprofits and Koch’s commercial lobbyists saying similar things about the same pending legislation on Capitol Hill — such as in 2007-2008 on the proposed America’s Climate Security Act. In 2011 and 2012, Koch Industries and one of its supported nonprofits, the Heritage Foundation, “educated” lawmakers and their staff in their respective ways regarding the proposed New Alternatives Transportation to Give Americans Solutions Act legislation."

And hey,
you are telling me that there is not ONE SPECIFIC REASON why the Kochs donated (16million between 2007-2011, and a total of 21 million) to George Mason University but 1000 dollars to Wisconsin Lutheran College? There are no connections? No dots to be connected?

If you truly believe so then you must be the most delusional person I have ever conversed with. A truly charitable foundation that has at its center giving and helping those in need do not make testimonies in congress, they dont need to schmooze with the givers, they do not have connections that benefit the givers, they are way too busy working with local communities and individuals in need. Maybe we truly have different definitions of giving and cannot compare or argue about this topic, but your definition of giving and donating is in my book highly flawed.

You were originally saying that Jews donate money to Jewish foundations and state of Israel. I pointed out that it's not the case. Now you are moving the goalposts and saying donations to libraries, universities and think tanks do not count.

As you singled out Koch, as an exception I will copy paste his 2013 donation:


Now, enough with your mumbo-jumbo bullshit, and show me the report that Jews do not donate outside their community.

 

[volpunter]

Check this out if you truly want to understand how political lobbying really works through the disguise of "giving". How naive some people are...wow....

You were originally saying that Jews donate money to Jewish foundations and state of Israel. I pointed out that it's not the case. Now you are moving the goalposts and saying donations to libraries, universities and think tanks do not count.

As you singled out Koch, as an exception I will copy paste his 2013 donation:


Now, enough with your mumbo-jumbo bullshit, and show me the report that Jews do not donate outside their community.