The Strategic Blunder of ‘Trump-as-Hitler’

Good1.. the socialist bit in Nazi was to pull the wool over the eyes at the time. Socialism was a popular idea so they incorporated it and public works projects made their corporatist/fascist backers very happy. He also wanted infrastructure for his war plans.

You have it all arseways because labels mean too much to you.

Monty Python can explain it better. Notice the dictator, military and the rich man.


Wrong. If you want to talk about facism, all you really can possibly mean is socialism with unfair favoritism in the tax-and-redistribute side of the equation. Corporations still pay taxes...still participate in socialism. They are more or less favored in the tax-and-redistribute equation. It could become unfair. But the unfairness emphasizes the fact that the populace is being taxed heavily, hence, socialism!

As I said, the only way to make socialism work, especially as it gets heavier and heavier, is to increase cohesiveness. Nationalism increases cohesiveness.

A fair rule of law increaees cohesiveness around the nation of law. Given an unfair rule of claw, and clash systems, you have to rely on more base ways of creating cohesion around factors such as ethnicity.

Hitler hyped the ethnic factor to get the people to swallow a heavy (corporate favoring?), socialist system that may well have been unfair to too many. It certainly manifested itself as unfair to its neighbors, who were force-included in the socialist side of the taxing equation.
 
Wrong. If you want to talk about facism, all you really can possibly mean is socialism with unfair favoritism in the tax-and-redistribute side of the equation. Corporations still pay taxes...still participate in socialism. They are more or less favored in the tax-and-redistribute equation. It could become unfair. But the unfairness emphasizes the fact that the populace is being taxed heavily, hence, socialism!

As I said, the only way to make socialism work, especially as it gets heavier and heavier, is to increase cohesiveness. Nationalism increases cohesiveness.

A fair rule of law increaees cohesiveness around the nation of law. Given an unfair rule of claw, and clash systems, you have to rely on more base ways of creating cohesion around factors such as ethnicity.

Hitler hyped the ethnic factor to get the people to swallow a heavy (corporate favoring?), socialist system that may well have been unfair to too many. It certainly manifested itself as unfair to its neighbors, who were force-included in the socialist side of the taxing equation.

You only have bumper-stickers in your head. You have ideas of ideas is all and you are just lost in your own rants.
 
I'm not a leftist but it may seem that way. I'm me. Not on a team. And the guys on this site are in absolutely no way 'radical' leftists. Very middle of the road and pragmatic. Just see Trump as dangerous.

The right has gone VERY right recently. You (and a few others) tilt at "left-ist" windmills that just don't exist here.
Whatever alternative universe you choose to live in is fine with me, but it's obvious to me that a considerable portion of the democratic party has went hard left. The fact that there are now a larger percentage of people pointing that out does not mean that group went further right.
 
Whatever alternative universe you choose to live in is fine with me, but it's obvious to me that a considerable portion of the democratic party has went hard left. The fact that there are now a larger percentage of people pointing that out does not mean that group went further right.

Are you talking to them or the people actually on ET?

Seems you are talking to yourself the same as Good1 and this is just a place to exercise that madness.
 
You only have bumper-stickers in your head. You have ideas of ideas is all and you are just lost in your own rants.

You've had no substantive rebuttals thus far.

You are quibbling about who is the recipient of the social welfare. Whether corporations are the recipients of social welfare, or whether mothers without mates are the recipient, it's still social welfare, hence socialism!

All socialism is hard, and harder when the recipients are not seen as kin. Opposite that, socialism is easier when recipients are seen as kin ("He's ain't heavy he's my brother"-the Hollys).

To make socialism work, you have to increase kinship, the heavier the sharing-burden becomes.

If your going to give welfare to corporations, you have to increase kinship among the people who are doing most of the giving/sharing, and as much as possible, between them and the corporation(s) receiving their welfare.

Kinship can be increased through hype or substance.

If you're really going to give welfare from corporations to portions of the populace, you're going to have to give corporations reasons to stay cohesive under your taxing jurisdiction.

Really, the only way to make it work is to be fair about both sides of the tax-and-redistribute equation.

It's still socialism, its still national socialism, and it's still the status quo!
 
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Whatever alternative universe you choose to live in is fine with me, but it's obvious to me that a considerable portion of the democratic party has went hard left. The fact that there are now a larger percentage of people pointing that out does not mean that group went further right.
And up is the new down.
 
Are you micro-dosing LSD?

You have given, you are old and tired, why not? So just give up. Stop talking.
No foreign troll, you should stop talking and get psychiatric help:

US trolls are the most disruptive particularly when politics are being discussed. In other topics they are or can be, rational human beings. Ignore is not ideal for this and other reasons IMO.

Why can't we discuss Trump etc. as non-Americans without the partisan rubbish-rubbish-out tribalism we don't care about and are detached from? .

Let me get this straight... Americans are disruptive in discussions about OUR OWN politics? :D

Fuck off and get a life you pathetic loser.
 
No foreign troll, you should stop talking and get psychiatric help:



Let me get this straight... Americans are disruptive in discussions about OUR OWN politics? :D

Fuck off and get a life you pathetic loser.

You are the one who associates porn movies with 'pimply virgins'... Makes inappropriate comments about your black sister (seriously, you don't want to copy Trump there)... and refuses a very generous offer of cocaine and an escort for his room.

How did you feel when you stepped off the boat and saw America for the first time? Too young to remember 0 or 1 gen Russian?
 
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