the sooner we get away from BEEF

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there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone.

IF this is true, then eat as many carrots as you can because it makes no difference whether you eat meat or carrots. I prefer a big juicy steak instead of a carrot. Taste's great!

EAT A STEAK TODAY :cool:
 
MEAT is full oh PHOSPHORUS!

Is lowering phosphate exposure the key to preventing arterial stiffening with age?

C J Ferro1, C D Chue2, R P Steeds3, J N Townend3

1 Department of Nephrology, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, University Hospital Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust, Birmingham, UK
2 Department of Cardiovascular Medicine, University of Birmingham, Birmingham, UK
3 Department of Cardiology, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, University Hospital Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust, Birmingham, UK


ABSTRACT

Cardiovascular disease remains the leading cause of death world wide. Although atheroma is clearly important, the role of arteriosclerotic vascular disease is often overlooked. Arteriosclerosis causes increased arterial stiffness, with consequent systolic hypertension and left ventricular hypertrophy. Serum phosphate is increasingly being recognised as a cardiovascular risk factor and has been implicated in the development of arteriosclerosis and arterial calcification. Its determinants are unclear, but both diet and minor reductions in renal function may be important. Diets in affluent populations are high in phosphate because of increased consumption of ANIMAL protein and the use of phosphate-containing preservatives. This viewpoint suggests that the consumption of a phosphate-rich diet, exacerbated by the high prevalence of chronic kidney disease found in ageing populations, accelerates the development of arteriosclerosis. It is hypothesised that reducing phosphate intake will attenuate the progression of ARTERIAL STIFFNESS with major beneficial effects upon cardiovascular mortality and morbidity.

Why eat this (MEAT!)with healthier TASTIER choices ?? I don't get it.. MEAT taste like the pile of grease that it is.

if you don't believe me, stop eating it for 3 weeks.. you'll see it for the greasy crap that it really is :eek:
 
You'll never "get it" so why not just quit preaching and eat your veggies in silence :D

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Why eat this (MEAT!)with healthier TASTIER choices ?? I don't get it.. MEAT taste like the pile of grease that it is.

if you don't believe me, stop eating it for 3 weeks.. you'll see it for the greasy crap that it really is :eek:
 
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You'll never "get it" so why not just quit preaching and eat your veggies in silence :D

get what?? the longest LIVED pops eat very little to NO MEAT. so what do I have to get .. you mutts are tooooooo funny

MUTTS EAT MEAT. BE A MUTT! :D
 
You'll never get that you're not going to change anyone's opinion so quit trying and enjoy your soy

LOL :D

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get what?? the longest LIVED pops eat very little to NO MEAT. so what do I have to get .. you mutts are tooooooo funny

MUTTS EAT MEAT. BE A MUTT! :D
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

You'll never get that you're not going to change anyone's opinion so quit trying and enjoy your soy

LOL :D

i just like busting your pork CHOPS ..

can't teach FOOLS to think critically.
learned that long time ago :D

GIVE BEEF DA BOOT..
 
Busting our chops??? Is THAT what you think you're doing, LMAO.

In order for that to actually work, you'd have to actually be worth taking seriously and I think we both know that's not the case. :p

But its sweet of you to keep trying.

Quote from killthesunshine:

i just like busting your pork CHOPS ..

can't teach FOOLS to think critically.
learned that long time ago :D

GIVE BEEF DA BOOT..
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Busting our chops??? Is THAT what you think you're doing, LMAO.

In order for that to actually work, you'd have to actually be worth taking seriously and I think we both know that's not the case. :p

But its sweet of you to keep trying.

never take ME seriously.. just busting your LOIN with my carrot

too funnh hee heehe :D
 
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