the sooner we get away from BEEF

Addict? I am a moderation guy. The only addict here is YOU, you are an extremist and extremists are addicted to their extreme :D



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Addicts, and that definitely includes BEAST EATERS, always try to rationalize their addiction. "Oh, it won't hurt me, it's good for me. i can handle it" LOLOL

YOUR ADDICTED TO BEEF! YOUR AN ADDICT! WHO SHOULD BELIEVE YOU!

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Addict? I am a moderation guy. The only addict here is YOU, you are an extremist and extremists are addicted to their extreme :D
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Would you tell a two pack a day smoker to cut back to A pack and he'll be ok? :D

"Moderation" will kill you just as dead :D
 
Eating food is essential for survival, smoking is not.

Apples and oranges. Why don't you try using a better analogy :D

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Would you tell a two pack a day smoker to cut back to A pack and he'll be ok? :D

"Moderation" will kill you just as dead :D
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Where did you read that BEEF FAT is essential, or that those that choose to NOT eat beef are worse off? :D

That's just not true, and I have given you much good evidence to prove it. Plants have enough of FAT, poly's and mono's, to stay healthy.

Addicts, and that definitely includes BEAST EATERS, always try to rationalize their addiction. "Oh, it won't hurt me, it's good for me. i can handle it" LOLOL

YOUR ADDICTED TO BEEF! YOUR AN ADDICT! SO ARE THE OTHER DIMWITS POSTING THIS! WHO SHOULD BELIEVE YOU!

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kilthesunshine, the harvard study show NO PLAQUE in the people who eat mostly all meat, cheese and egg. This is not saying to eat ONLY meat cheese and egg, it is saying the SATURATED FAT is not making the plaque. They know that fruit and vegetable have vitamins and nutrients people need. They know people can not get that from meat, cheese egg.
So they not saying ONLY eat meat, cheese and egg, they are saying NO PROOF saturated fat make plaque.
 
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Eating food is essential for survival, smoking is not.

Apples and oranges. Why don't you try using a better analogy :D
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eating SATURATED FAT is NON-ESSENTIAL, in fact just the opposite it's antithetical to LIFE & HEALTH :D

Did YOU miss THIS point AGAIN?

i can't spell it out any plainer :D

GIVE BEEF DA BOOT!

ps apples and oragnes, eat all you want :D
 
"Although we don't normally consider saturated fat as an essential nutrient, it is just as essential to good health as the essential polyunsaturated fatty acids. We need saturated fat for proper digestive function, growth, and a host of other processes. In fact, saturated fat is an essential component of every single cell in our bodies. It is so important to proper function and good health that nature has incorporated saturated fat into almost all of the foods we eat both of animal and plant origin. Even the so-called polyunsaturated oils like safflower oil, corn oil, and even flaxseed oil contain saturated fat. The World Health Organization and even the American Heart Association recommends that we get saturated fat in our diet to maintain optimal health. This type of information is usually ignored because saturated fat is considered a health hoodlum lurking in our food just to cause problems, and the less we eat the better. But this is simply not true. Nature doesn't put saturated fat in vegetables, mother's milk, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason."

GIVE MODERATION A CHANCE
 
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"Although we don't normally consider saturated fat as an essential nutrient, it is just as essential to good health as the essential polyunsaturated fatty acids. We need saturated fat for proper digestive function, growth, and a host of other processes. In fact, saturated fat is an essential component of every single cell in our bodies. It is so important to proper function and good health that nature has incorporated saturated fat into almost all of the foods we eat both of animal and plant origin. Even the so-called polyunsaturated oils like safflower oil, corn oil, and even flaxseed oil contain saturated fat. The World Health Organization and even the American Heart Association recommends that we get saturated fat in our diet to maintain optimal health. This type of information is usually ignored because saturated fat is considered a health hoodlum lurking in our food just to cause problems, and the less we eat the better. But this is simply not true. Nature doesn't put saturated fat in vegetables, mother's milk, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason."

GIVE MODERATION A CHANCE
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after everything i've posted your still going to try to argue that saturated fat in the diet is essential?

you are a f^cking moron :D
 
Here's a news flash for you....your posts are NOT gospel. It's only your delusions about your "stance" that make it impossible for you to realize that recent evidence out there suggests that you are WRONG about some of what you post.

I told you, I believe that too much meat, too much saturated fat is unhealthy. And Americans eat way too much of both. Both you are arguing to give it all up completely so....you ma'am....are the f^cking moron :D

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after everything i've posted your still going to try to argue that saturated fat in the diet is essential?

you are a f^cking moron :D
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Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Here's a news flash for you....your posts are NOT gospel. It's only your delusions about your "stance" that make it impossible for you to realize that recent evidence out there suggests that you are WRONG about some of what you post.

I told you, I believe that too much meat, too much saturated fat is unhealthy. And Americans eat way too much of both. Both you are arguing to give it all up completely so....you ma'am....are the f^cking moron :D
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what evidence have you posted? your a joke :D
 
Nutr Metab Cardiovasc Dis. 2007 Jan;17(1):50-7. Epub 2006 Mar 20.
Olive, soybean and palm oils intake have a similar acute detrimental
effect over the endothelial function in healthy young subjects.

OBJECTIVE: To
evaluate the acute effect of the ingestion of large amounts of olive,
soybean and palm oils, fresh and at two different deep-fry levels, on
the glucose and lipid profiles and the endothelial function.

RESULTS:
All the meals resulted in a similar acute endothelial impairment (FMD
decrease of 32.1%, confidence interval [CI] 95%, 28.0-36.2) and
postprandial increase in triglycerides (27.03%, CI 95%, 20.5-33.3),
independently of the type of oil ingested (p=0.44) and regardless of its
deep-fry level (p=0.62).

All
the vegetable oils, fresh and deep-fried, produced an increase in the
triglyceride plasma levels in healthy subjects.


READ IT AND WEEP! GIVE BEEF AND OLIVE OIL DA BOOT! :D
 
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