Quote from killthesunshine:
That was the usual unspecific general disclaimer made at end of all these press releases. What IS the perfect "balance" of macronutrient?
"demonstrating that mice placed on a 12-week low-carbohydrate/high-protein diet showed a significant increase in atherosclerosis, a buildup of plaque in the heartâs arteries"
At this point, from the results of this (and many other) study we know it ain't LOW CARB which by definition means arbitrarily restricting plant protein and increasing animal product.
From the study killthesunshine. 3 model, 3 different diet (ratio change in the diet)
"The investigators proceeded to study a mouse model of atherosclerosis. These âApoEâ mice were fed one of three diets: a standard diet of mouse âchowâ (65 percent carbohydrate; 15 percent fat; 20 percent protein); a âWestern dietâ in keeping with the average human diet (43 percent carbohydrate; 42 percent fat; 15 percent protein; and 0.15 percent cholesterol); or a low-carb/high-protein diet (12 percent carbohydrate; 43 percent fat; 45 percent protein; and 0.15 percent cholesterol)."
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Ok killthesunshine, go from this, 3 diets to this is what they see from the ratio change
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The scientists then observed the mice after six weeks, and again at 12 weeks. Consistent with experience in humans, the mice fed the low-carb diet gained 28 percent less weight than the mice fed the Western diet. However, further probing revealed that the animalsâ blood vessels exhibited a significantly greater degree of atherosclerosis, as measured by plaque accumulation: 15.3 percent compared with 8.8 percent among the Western diet group. (As expected, the mice on the chow diet showed minimal evidence of atherosclerosis compared with either of the other two groups.)
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killthesunshine, you see? "(As expected, the mice on the chow diet showed minimal evidence of atherosclerosis compared with either of the other two groups.)"
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Now they ask this killthesunshine, âOur next question was, âWhy do the low-carb mice have such an increase in atherosclerosis?ââ
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So they do this killthesunshine , "measure the usual markers thought to contribute to vascular disease, including the animalsâ cholesterol and triglyceride levels, oxidative stress, insulin and glucose, as well as levels of some inflammatory cytokines."
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And they find this killthesunshine, âIn each case, there was either no difference in measurements compared with the mice on the Western diet [which contains the same amount of fat and cholesterol] or the numbers slightly favored the low-carb cohort,â she added. âNone of these results explained why the animalsâ blood had more atherosclerotic blockages and looked so bad.â
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So they find (the same) amount of fat and cholesterol in the body of high fat diet (Western diet) and (Low carb/high protein) and (mice chow diet)
So they can not say saturated fat is the (cause)
Not too much, not too little.
