the sooner we get away from BEEF

Quote from killthesunshine:

go eat a chicken head, get some brains any brains just get some:D


Yes indeed! Eat some brains, very healthy. You are being converted. Resistance is futile, you cannot resist common sense.


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"polyunsaturated fats (PUFA's) is central to the
development of degenerative diseases: cancer, heart disease, arthritis,
immunodeficiency, diabetes, hypertension, osteoporosis, connective
tissue disease, and calcification." (Peat)
http://www.newtreatments.org/FoodInfo/ga/420/


The Dangers of Polyunsaturates
http://www.westonaprice.org/The-Skinny-on-Fats.html#poly
 
We don't take KillTS seriously, this thread is purely entertainment when he posts. Although, the useful posts, come from pretty much everyone else so KillTS did a service by starting it.

:)

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Everybody should do the opposite of what KTS says to do.
 
Have you ever tried getting your facts from reputable science journals, try smthg different :D

I'll see your obscure internet BS and raise you one peer-reviewed study :

Consumption of Saturated Fat Impairs the
Anti-Inflammatory Properties of High-Density
Lipoproteins and Endothelial Function
J Am Coll Cardiol, 2006; 48:715-720, © 2006 by the

OBJECTIVES: The purpose of this study was to
investigate the influence of dietary fatty acids on
the anti-inflammatory properties of high-density
lipoproteins (HDL) and vascular function.

BACKGROUND: The effect of dietary fatty acids on
atherogenesis remains uncertain.

METHODS: Fourteen adults consumed an isocaloric meal
containing either a polyunsaturated or a saturated fat
on 2 occasions. The effects of post-prandial HDL on
endothelial cell expression of intercellular adhesion
molecule-1 (ICAM-1) and vascular cell adhesion
molecule-1 (VCAM-1) were determined. Flow-mediated
dilation (FMD) and microvascular reactivity were
assessed before and 3 and 6 h after the meal.

RESULTS: Plasma triglycerides, insulin, and
nonesterified fatty acids rose after the meals. The
HDL collected 6 h after the saturated meal were less
effective than HDL isolated from fasting plasma in
terms of their ability to inhibit expression of ICAM-1
and VCAM-1, whereas HDL collected 6 h after the
polyunsaturated meal had an inhibitory activity that
was greater than that of HDL collected from fasting
plasma (p < 0.004 and p = 0.01 for comparison of
effect of meals on ICAM-1 and VCAM-1, respectively).
Post-hyperemic microvascular flow significantly
increased at 3 h after the polyunsaturated meal by 45
± 14% and by 21 ± 11% after the saturated meal. The
FMD decreased 3 h after the saturated meal by 2.2 ±
0.9% (p < 0.05 compared with baseline) and by 0.9 ± 1%
after the polyunsaturated meal.

CONCLUSIONS: Consumption of a saturated fat reduces
the anti-inflammatory potential of HDL and impairs
arterial endothelial function. In contrast, the
anti-inflammatory activity of HDL improves after
consumption of polyunsaturated fat. These findings
highlight novel mechanisms by which different dietary
fatty acids may influence key atherogenic processes.
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

Have you ever tried getting your facts from reputable science journals, try smthg different :D

I'll see your obscure internet BS and raise you one peer-reviewed study :



Blah, flawed, blah, blah, we need more research money, blah, blah.............................................................




The study shows what happens when grain-fed animals are consumed. Grain-fed meat causes the same health problems as when humans eat grains. You have to ask yourself why the government changed the food pyramid to now consist of mostly grains. Grains make animals sick, it shows in their fat composition.

Nature intended for most animals to consume grass, and for humans to consume those animals. Back to the way nature intended, back to basics.
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

The study shows what happens when grain-fed animals are consumed. Grain-fed meat causes the same health problems as when humans eat grains. You have to ask yourself why the government changed the food pyramid to now consist of mostly grains. Grains make animals sick, it shows in their fat composition.

Nature intended for most animals to consume grass, and for humans to consume those animals.

Grain makes animals sick. Animals make humans sick. Humans eat plants to get healthy.

circle of life, health and longevity :D


seriously, grain or grass-fed still same FATTY beef
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

Grain makes animals sick. Animals make humans sick. Humans eat plants to get healthy.

circle of life, health and longevity :D


seriously, grain or grass-fed still same FATTY beef


No, no, oh, my......

Humans have not evolved, adapted to eating grains. Agriculture is a recent development. The human digestive system cannot tolerate grains for such a length of time. The ancients knew this as they sprouted and or fermented grains and mixed in other ingredients like beans. Grains have never been consumed in such a massive amount as they are today.

The US government is promoting a dangerous amount of grain consumption with dire health consequences.

One must learn from the hunters and gatherers. There is nothing but good from eating meat and vegies.
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

No, no, oh, my......

Humans have not evolved, adapted to eating grains. Agriculture is a recent development. The human digestive system cannot tolerate grains for such a length of time. The ancients knew this as they sprouted and or fermented grains and mixed in other ingredients like beans. Grains have never been consumed in such a massive amount as they are today.

The US government is promoting a dangerous amount of grain consumption with dire health consequences.

One must learn from the hunters and gatherers. There is nothing but good from eating meat and vegies.

what do you think the "gathering" portion of "hunter/gatherer" refers to

chicken heads? :D
 
Quote from killthesunshine:



A 2006 study from the University of Southampton in Britain, which followed more than 8,000 people for 20 years, found that vegetarians tend to have IQs about five points higher than those of meat-eaters!

But before they were vegetarians their IQs were 20 points higher! That is a 15 point drop! :p
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

what do you think the "gathering" portion of "hunter/gatherer" refers to

chicken heads? :D

That's what I said about nothing wrong with eating meat and vegies. You leave out the hunter part. I look at and practice the big picture as nature intended.

There has never been a culture in history that has ever been vegetarian. Vegetarianism is a contrivance.

And the modern hybrid grains are far inferior to the ancient grains, with much lower protein, minerals etc. Let alone the genetically modified grains that my doctor said will modify human genes.

Yes, genetically modified crops alter human DNA into who knows what. You become what you eat. You eat Monsanto GM corn, you become a Monsanto Clone!
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

That's what I said about nothing wrong with eating meat and vegies. You leave out the hunter part. I look at and practice the big picture as nature intended.

There has never been a culture in history that has ever been vegetarian. Vegetarianism is a contrivance.

And the modern hybrid grains are far inferior to the ancient grains, with much lower protein, minerals etc. Let alone the genetically modified grains that my doctor said will modify human genes.

Yes, genetically modified crops alter human DNA into who knows what. You become what you eat. You eat Monsanto GM corn, you become a Monsanto Clone!

early man ate insects, give your recipe :p
 
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