The products of Public Education, Democrats on Parade

peilthetraveler said:
But what about the ones that don't make the cut, but are still smarter and got better scores than the blacks? What happens to them. They worked harder and got punished and now they don't get to go to harvard all because their parents gave them every advantage in life.

Also would you be for this kind of racism if it were reversed? Would you be ok with the NBA getting rid of its black players so 14% of Asians (who are only .2% of the NBA) could play? Would you be ok with record labels stopping signing black rappers to give record contracts to less talented whites?
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If they cant make the 86% tough shit.Admissions are and should be more than just GPAs and SATs anyway.


BTW,record labels do give to many record contracts to garbage white rappers.
 
You leftards will always find something to blame for your own failure and incapability to compete. You will always need the nanny government support in everything. Don't be a wimp.
 
Tony Stark said:
If they cant make the 86% tough shit.Admissions are and should be more than just GPAs and SATs anyway.


BTW,record labels do give to many record contracts to garbage white rappers.
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Why should admissions be more than GPA and SATs? Whoever works hardest academically should get to go to the best schools no matter your skin color.

But ok...lets say suddenly blacks start doing better on test scores and actually start out performing white and asian kids on test scores. So much so that they do better than 50% of all the Asian and white kids. Should Harvard now stop more than 14% of blacks from getting into harvard?
 
maximumpossiblesuffering said:
Another challenge to overcome is mistrust, justifiable or not, of our system. I fear many minorities do not even try, whether it is voting or investing in their personal development over fears they are just wasting their time in a system rigged against them. And yet, some minorities prosper. What are the differences between the successful and the unsuccessful who have started in simular circumstances?
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You have answered your own question. Being a minority is not an important criterion for failure. That's obvious.

You might be on to something here: "...many minorities do not even try, whether it is voting or investing in their personal development over fears they are just wasting their time" I think it will pay dividends to keep thinking along those lines, and what to do about this.

I imagine you meant to say, "too many of certain minorities do not even try..." and I think you are probably right and most likely the reason is as you say. I'm going to have a hard time getting enthusiastic about a career in the NBA when I am only 5'11".

To be motivated one must have hope based on reasonable odds.. There are many things we could do that would be helpful. Leaving virtually all the disposable income with the top 20% of earners isn't helpful. The U.S. was once considered a land of opportunity. Today it is a land of opportunity in the same way a casino is "a land of opportunity." One in so many thousand hits the jackpot. Knowledge of that is not terribly motivating.
 
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piezoe said:
You have answered your own question. Being a minority is not an important criterion for failure. That's obvious.

You might be on to something here: "...many minorities do not even try, whether it is voting or investing in their personal development over fears they are just wasting their time" I think it will pay dividends to keep thinking along those lines, and what to do about this.

I imagine you meant to say, "too many of certain minorities do not even try..." and I think you are probably right and most likely the reason is as you say. I'm going to have a hard time getting enthusiastic about a career in the NBA when I am only 5'11".

To be motivated one must have hope based on reasonable odds.. There are many things we could do that would be helpful. Leaving virtually all the disposable income with the top 20% of earners isn't helpful. The U.S. was once considered a land of opportunity. Today it is a land of opportunity in the same way a casino is "a land of opportunity." One in so many thousand hits the jackpot. Knowledge of that is not terribly motivating.
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I could use serveral members of my family as case studies in understanding how people with even high IQs, attractive, and even having no major bad habits fail to achieve what they want. Parenting and environment are often very strong predictors of success and happiness. I will do a case study on them in a future post.
 
piezoe said:
To be motivated one must have hope based on reasonable odds.. There are many things we could do that would be helpful. Leaving virtually all the disposable income with the top 20% of earners isn't helpful. The U.S. was once considered a land of opportunity. Today it is a land of opportunity in the same way a casino is "a land of opportunity." One in so many thousand hits the jackpot. Knowledge of that is not terribly motivating.
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What a load of crap. The opportunities have never been greater and the poor have never had it better in the US.
 
maximumpossiblesuffering said:
I could use serveral members of my family as case studies in understanding how people with even high IQs, attractive, and even having no major bad habits fail to achieve what they want. Parenting and environment are often very strong predictors of success and happiness. I will do a case study on them in a future post.
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I look forward to it. We know parenting and environment are strong predictors, i.e., highly correlated. Therefore a potentially fruitful area of inquiry is whether there is a second best alternative when parenting and environment are far from ideal.
 
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