The Presidential Debates

[Tsing Tao]

I don't think your wife lived under communism, and economic form, as there were clearly property owning elites in Russia at the time. She lived under authoritarianism, a political form, which was that nation's reaction to extreme inequality at the end of the 19th century (following similar reactions in other parts of Europe). There was no "dictatorship of the proletariat", even if one believed there should be such a dictatorship.

My wife was born considerably before Perestroika. She waited in lines to get toiletries and other necessities. She has an old "CCCP" passport. She had to join the "Young Pioneers". Her mother worked for the Party. You're saying that wasn't Communism?

 

[Ricter]

"but I don't think they're the ones bringing the violence to all these cities."

But according to the FBI and local law enforcement groups around the nation, it is rightwing violence that has the greater occurrence.

 

[Tsing Tao]

But according to the FBI and local law enforcement groups around the nation, it is rightwing violence that has the greater occurrence.

Would you kindly back this up with the FBI's exact claim?

 

[Ricter]

My wife was born considerably before Perestroika. She waited in lines to get toiletries and other necessities. She has an old "CCCP" passport. She had to join the "Young Pioneers". Her mother worked for the Party. You're saying that wasn't Communism?

If there were property owning elites controlling distribution of resources, then no, it wasn't communism.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Biden should simply say "I denounce ANTIFA and all the violence surrounding it."

Would you kindly back this up with the FBI's exact claim?

Trump's FBI director says Antifa is an ideoplogy and not an organization:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-archive-bdd3b6078e9efadcfcd0be4b65f2362e

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/fbi-director-chris-wray-blew-up-trumps-anti-antifa-war-plan

 

[Tsing Tao]

If there were property owning elites controlling distribution of resources, then no, it wasn't communism.

I'm sure she'll be delighted to hear your interpretation. Numerous websites will disagree with your analysis regarding the fall of Communism in Russia.

 

[Ricter]

I'm sure she'll be delighted to hear your interpretation. Numerous websites will disagree with your analysis regarding the fall of Communism in Russia.

Argumentum ad passiones, argumentum ad populum.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Trump's FBI director says Antifa is an ideoplogy and not an organization:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-archive-bdd3b6078e9efadcfcd0be4b65f2362e

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/fbi-director-chris-wray-blew-up-trumps-anti-antifa-war-plan

This is just semantics. Whether ANTIFA has a building headquarters or is a bunch of cells as the director claims is irrelevant. It is possible to denounce it and the violence associated with it.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?


"...their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists...

...In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders..."

 

[Frederick Foresight]

This is just semantics. Whether ANTIFA has a building headquarters or is a bunch of cells as the director claims is irrelevant. It is possible to denounce it and the violence associated with it.

You asked for a reference to the FBI backing that claim. Now you have it.