The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo
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There's an elector in my blue state that is going to take a $1000 fine rather than cast a vote for the name that I shall not mention. Maybe he will now...now that he knows it doesn't matter. I appreciate that but still don't get it. Are the number of electors not exactly proportional to the population of each state?
Perfect cap to this thread.
The vast majority of polls were fake for months were fake. Using D plus 7 to to D plus 10 or worse.... some did not even reveal their templates.
We predicted they would unskew and then we could tell you what was going on.
When they did last week we saw that the national vote was in the margin for error.
Then we were able to use Nate Silvers simulations to surmise Trump had a good chance to win the electoral college. Nate said if the national vote was less than 2% hillarys favor trump could win the electoral college. This made us more optimistic than nate because the algo let us know that the correct voter tally was that the national vote was less than 2% in hillarys favor.
tldr...
So the call was... wait until the crooked polls unskew or herd in front of the election and then we could tell you what was going on. When they unskewed we knew it was inside the margin for error.
the algo go it right. tony stark and the mass media polls were fake... for months and months til they unskewed.
P.S.
Thanks to Tony for being a partisan but somewhat entertaining contributor.
He was probably not paid to post anymore so I can understand why he is not here today.
As far as the rest of you lefties... did any of you play sports growing up when you were forming your character?
The vast majority of polls were fake for months were fake. Using D plus 7 to to D plus 10 or worse.... some did not even reveal their templates.
We predicted they would unskew and then we could tell you what was going on.
When they did last week we saw that the national vote was in the margin for error.
Then we were able to use Nate Silvers simulations to surmise Trump had a good chance to win the electoral college. Nate said if the national vote was less than 2% hillarys favor trump could win the electoral college. This made us more optimistic than nate because the algo let us know that the correct voter tally was that the national vote was less than 2% in hillarys favor.
tldr...
So the call was... wait until the crooked polls unskew or herd in front of the election and then we could tell you what was going on. When they unskewed we knew it was inside the margin for error.
the algo go it right. tony stark and the mass media polls were fake... for months and months til they unskewed.
P.S.
Thanks to Tony for being a partisan but somewhat entertaining contributor.
He was probably not paid to post anymore so I can understand why he is not here today.
As far as the rest of you lefties... did any of you play sports growing up when you were forming your character?
I'm not sure the polls were all that fake. Think about the similarities of the Brexit vote and completely inaccurate polling and this election and the same, worthless polling.
Brexit was believed to be impossible, until it happened, of course. Up to that point, the polling showed Remain to be a cinch. But those in favor of Brext were verbally abused, insulted, made to feel like their choice was treasonous. No one wanted to be Brexit fans in public. Many were in private.
Trump supporters were made out to be racist, sexist, xenophobic and deplorable by the media. The media did it's best to make people feel that supporting Trump meant they were defective in some manner. But people know what is right, deep down. At least, most do. We saw GOP head quarters firebombed. Trump properties vandalized and defaced. Trump signs smashed, stolen, run down. Houses of Trump supporters attacked and again, vandalized.
How many Trump/Pence bumper stickers did you see out there? I didn't see any. Probably because people thought their cars would be keyed, etc. It was so publicly unpopular to be a Trump supporter, it was dangerous. So when asked, no one in their right mind would say they supported Trump. Yet many, when in the privacy of their own ballot box, did what they felt they had to do.
It could be that the media's asinine plan to make people feel bad for their choice of candidate worked against the very polling measures the media relied on for accurate polling. Wouldn't that be poetic.
Brexit was believed to be impossible, until it happened, of course. Up to that point, the polling showed Remain to be a cinch. But those in favor of Brext were verbally abused, insulted, made to feel like their choice was treasonous. No one wanted to be Brexit fans in public. Many were in private.
Trump supporters were made out to be racist, sexist, xenophobic and deplorable by the media. The media did it's best to make people feel that supporting Trump meant they were defective in some manner. But people know what is right, deep down. At least, most do. We saw GOP head quarters firebombed. Trump properties vandalized and defaced. Trump signs smashed, stolen, run down. Houses of Trump supporters attacked and again, vandalized.
How many Trump/Pence bumper stickers did you see out there? I didn't see any. Probably because people thought their cars would be keyed, etc. It was so publicly unpopular to be a Trump supporter, it was dangerous. So when asked, no one in their right mind would say they supported Trump. Yet many, when in the privacy of their own ballot box, did what they felt they had to do.
It could be that the media's asinine plan to make people feel bad for their choice of candidate worked against the very polling measures the media relied on for accurate polling. Wouldn't that be poetic.
yes and no... there is a claim that this was could not be polled... but I think the independents were a proxy for what was going on. Nobody in the press spoke of it. But I created a thread about it.
I am far less concerned about the actual result than I am with the templates being used.
(prior to the herding the mostly crooked pollsters were using very democrat rich samples... and they manipulated (changed) those templates to hide the surge in independents to Trump. Trump had independents, then it went to about 50/50 after the sex comments... then he opened up a 15 point lead with them.
Perhaps had the pollsters not been so crooked Hillary would have listened to Michael Moore. Moore knew what we saw in the data.
Manipulating the templates to hide the independents bouncing back and forth to trump as he screwed up and then recovered was crooked.
Using democrat rich samples also deprived us from knowing that if you used the 2012 turnout model... Trump was tied or slightly in the lead... almost the whole race.
Had we know that the press and the lefties mostly distorted memes against trump would have been seen as having less merit and trump may have blown her out.
I am far less concerned about the actual result than I am with the templates being used.
(prior to the herding the mostly crooked pollsters were using very democrat rich samples... and they manipulated (changed) those templates to hide the surge in independents to Trump. Trump had independents, then it went to about 50/50 after the sex comments... then he opened up a 15 point lead with them.
Perhaps had the pollsters not been so crooked Hillary would have listened to Michael Moore. Moore knew what we saw in the data.
Manipulating the templates to hide the independents bouncing back and forth to trump as he screwed up and then recovered was crooked.
Using democrat rich samples also deprived us from knowing that if you used the 2012 turnout model... Trump was tied or slightly in the lead... almost the whole race.
Had we know that the press and the lefties mostly distorted memes against trump would have been seen as having less merit and trump may have blown her out.
The pollsters saw what their bias lead them to see. All of these political insiders are so disconnected from reality they can't see what's right in front of them. Who could possibly be hurting in a stock market that has more than doubled under a democratic administration? The millions who lost their job, that's who. The person who doesn't have the extra money to participate, that's who. The tens of millions who were left holding the bag for the 2008 blow up and watch those that were responsible not be held accountable, that's who. The entire country who is sick to death of the double standards, the blatant hypocrisy, the outright lies and having our intelligence insulted every time our "leaders" open their god damn mouths, that's who.