The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo

What damage?
Mrs. Medicated is going to have to invade Syria to appease the Saudi and Qatar donors. And who knows what other US owned properties are going to be sold to foreignors.
The banks will likely see regulations vanish.
Obamacare will have to be chopped in order to bring back the insurance companies.
How could things be much worse under Trump?
I don't believe any of that crap.
 
real liberals have not won an election since Carter.
real conservatives have not won an election since Reagan.

there is no damage control with any establishment candidates they will keep harvesting america for the cronies...
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TLDR... Nate Silver says close race clinton lose the electoral college.



Nate Silvers 538 said given stated yesterday... that given a 3 or 4 point lead in the polls it looked like Clinton had a 70 percent chance of winning but.... they then discussed what if the race tighten to less than 2 points.... (which it has if you look at today's polls.)


The question is how robust Clinton’s lead would be to a modest error in the polling, or a further tightening of the race. So here’s a second set of simulations, drawn from cases in which Trump or Clinton win the national popular vote by less than 2 percentage points:

see a chart of simulations here http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-yes-donald-trump-has-a-path-to-victory/


This isn’t a secure map for Clinton at all. In a race where the popular vote is roughly tied nationally, Colorado and New Hampshire are toss-ups, and Clinton’s chances are only 60 to 65 percent in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. She has quite a gauntlet to run through to hold her firewall, and she doesn’t have a lot of good backup options. While she could still hold on to Nevada, it doesn’t have enough electoral votes to make up for the loss of Michigan or Pennsylvania. And while she could win North Carolina or Florida if polls hold where they are now, they’d verge on being lost causes if the race shifts by another few points toward Trump.




In fact, Clinton would probably lose the Electoral College in the event of a very close national popular vote.

Nates algo,which is better than his personal opinion, has it 67-32.

Hillary is ahead in EVERY RCP poll in Colorado,New Hampshire,Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.Not only is she ahead in every poll in those states her rcp average is highers than Obamas was in all those states a week before the election.
 
I guess you did not read the article. He ran simulations using stats to show how the national vote ties in to the electoral college.

His simulations show that if hillary wins by less than 2 percent of the national vote... trump probably wins.

He is hedging his bet because the polls were lying and they are herding hard the last few days.
If you add up todays polls and take an average its tied. That is the way its been the last 3 days.
It takes a few days for the average to match the current situation on the ground.

In other words the recent polls are a leading indicator and its swinging to trump.


Nates algo,which is better than his personal opinion, has it 67-32.

Hillary is ahead in EVERY RCP poll in Colorado,New Hampshire,Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.Not only is she ahead in every poll in those states her rcp average is highers than Obamas was in all those states a week before the election.
 
I guess you did not read the article. He ran simulations using stats to show how the national vote ties in to the electoral college.

His simulations show that if hillary wins by less than 2 percent of the national vote... trump probably wins.

He is hedging his bet because the polls were lying and they are herding hard the last few days.
If you add up todays polls and take an average its tied. That is the way its been the last 3 days.
It takes a few days for the average to match the current situation on the ground.

In other words the recent polls are a leading indicator and its swinging to trump.

No,I did not read the article.A month or two ago I stated my patience was running out with Silver due to having 3 different algos and his personal opinion on 1 election.I no longer read or listen to anything Silver has to say.I check in on his original algo because of its success in the past and as for as I know he hasn't changed it but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
 
New Reuters/Ipsos poll.Hillary +6

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKBN12X2P6


Politics | Wed Nov 2, 2016 | 7:05pm EDT
Clinton leads Trump by 6 points, same as before FBI announcement: Reuters/Ipsos

By Chris Kahn | NEW YORK

Hillary Clinton led Republican Donald Trump by 6 percentage points among likely voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos daily tracking poll released on Wednesday, the same advantage the Democratic presidential nominee held before an FBI announcement that reignited the controversy about her email practices.

The Oct. 28-Nov. 1 opinion poll was conducted almost entirely after FBI Director James Comey notified Congress last Friday his agency would examine newly discovered emails that might pertain to Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state.

Comey said he did not know whether the emails were significant and released no information other than that they existed. His announcement drew outrage from Democrats who voiced concern it would unfairly influence voters so close to next week's election. Trump and other Republicans seized on the news to revive questions about Clinton's credibility.

Among 1,772 people who have either voted already or were identified as likely voters in the Nov. 8 election, 45 percent said they supported Clinton, while 39 percent said they backed Trump. On Thursday, the day before Comey's announcement, Clinton led Trump by 43 percent to 37 percent.

In a four-way poll that included alternative party candidates, Clinton led Trump by 8 percentage points among likely voters. Forty-five percent supported Clinton, while 37 percent backed Trump. Five percent supported Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and 2 percent backed Jill Stein of the Green Party.
 
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