The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo
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Changing the subject tony?
Can't defend the polls you've been flogging on here for a month when it's up against facts and logic, so lets talk about fhl, right?
3 new polls released today.
CBS Hillary +6
CNN Hillary + 6
Economist/YouGov Hillary +5
CBS Hillary +6
CNN Hillary + 6
Economist/YouGov Hillary +5
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Hillary has taken the lead in FL and NC
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Rasmussen Reports Clinton 42, Trump 41, Johnson 9, Stein 2 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/SM Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Tracking Clinton 43, Trump 47 Trump +4
So today we have one crap poll. One that is virtually tied and one that had Trump up by 4.
The polls you cited yesterday were mostly crap polls that don't reveal their templates... so they are worthless. I am not even sure these polls today reveal they templates.
So the jem algo and my opinion is that we have mostly worthless polls. So we don't know what is really going on.
If you would like to click around and tell me which polls have revealed their templates... I could tell you what is going on. At the moment before the hearding its not worth it to me.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/SM Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Tracking Clinton 43, Trump 47 Trump +4
So today we have one crap poll. One that is virtually tied and one that had Trump up by 4.
The polls you cited yesterday were mostly crap polls that don't reveal their templates... so they are worthless. I am not even sure these polls today reveal they templates.
So the jem algo and my opinion is that we have mostly worthless polls. So we don't know what is really going on.
If you would like to click around and tell me which polls have revealed their templates... I could tell you what is going on. At the moment before the hearding its not worth it to me.
Latimes/USC daybreak poll--the chart is a couple of days behind. Currently it has Trump up a little less than four points.
Here's how the same poll did in 2012
This pollster was more accurate than the RCP avg in the 2012 election.
Forget what some website says about who was most accurate. Just look at this chart of the 2012 election, go and look at the rcp avg chart of the 2012 election, and see for yourself that this one was more accurate than the RCP avg.
And now it has Trump ahead.
Here's how the same poll did in 2012
This pollster was more accurate than the RCP avg in the 2012 election.
Forget what some website says about who was most accurate. Just look at this chart of the 2012 election, go and look at the rcp avg chart of the 2012 election, and see for yourself that this one was more accurate than the RCP avg.
And now it has Trump ahead.
According to Gallops most recent party affiliation poll, 27% of voters are republicans, 40% are independents and 32% are democrats. http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
Now...according to this Reuters poll(and you'll find most of the polls on real clear politics are the same) it has Clinton up 6 points. But look at how many democrats were sampled to get there. 52.3% of that sample was democrats. They basically nearly doubled the amount of democrats that actually vote to get that 6 point lead while at the same time they only sampled 15.3% independents despite them being 40% of the population. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/2016_Reuters_Tracking_-_Core_Political_9.27_.16__.pdf
This is just one poll, but you'll find pretty similar instances where Clinton is leading(although many polls won't disclose party affiliation methodology even if you email them and ask them for it)
This is absolute 100% proof that the polls are trying to rig it in favor of Clinton.
Now...according to this Reuters poll(and you'll find most of the polls on real clear politics are the same) it has Clinton up 6 points. But look at how many democrats were sampled to get there. 52.3% of that sample was democrats. They basically nearly doubled the amount of democrats that actually vote to get that 6 point lead while at the same time they only sampled 15.3% independents despite them being 40% of the population. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/2016_Reuters_Tracking_-_Core_Political_9.27_.16__.pdf
This is just one poll, but you'll find pretty similar instances where Clinton is leading(although many polls won't disclose party affiliation methodology even if you email them and ask them for it)
This is absolute 100% proof that the polls are trying to rig it in favor of Clinton.
The whole skewed polls theory let republicans down in 2012 and will do so again in 2016.Hopefully you guys stop believing in that nonsense in 2020.