The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo

I know you are smarter than this and you are being paid to be dense.

Slanting your polls but still winning is not hard to do when you are slanting for the incumbent in a 2 way race and you the media and big money and voter fraud on your side as well.

Polls got destroyed in 2014 remember?
 
the poll is garbage they don't even release their R v D vs I makeup as far as I can tell.
That is a garbage poll without the guts to even pretend to be credible.
At least the ABC poll shows you how slanted they are.

Tony Stark said:
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NBC garbage? They had Obama ahead in the majority of their polls on 08 and 2012 while your beloved Rasmussen who had the D v R numbers you like had Romney ahead in the majority of theirs.
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jem said:
I know you are smarter than this and you are being paid to be dense.

Slanting your polls but still winning is not hard to do when you are slanting for the incumbent in a 2 way race and you the media and big money and voter fraud on your side as well.

Polls got destroyed in 2014 remember?
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I don't remember every race but I do recall the polls showed The GOP keeping The House and winning the Senate.Mid term polling is less reliable than Presidential year races,I believe I stated that.
 
jem said:
the poll is garbage they don't even release their R v D vs I makeup as far as I can tell.
That is a garbage poll without the guts to even pretend to be credible.
At least the ABC poll shows you how slanted they are.
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Has Trump taken the lead in the jem algo? Please keep us updated,I'd like to compare the jem algo results to the polls you consider garbage after the election.Personally I think the jem algo is going to be the worst in 2016,even surpassing Rasmussen.Don't take that as an insult,I'm just going by the jem algos methodology and 2012 results.

Hillary is up by 4 in the TS algo.
 
the algo got the process correct.

I predicted the polls would unskew in front of the election because many of the polls were very skewed and it happened. Nate Silver now explains that was "herding". Years after we called attention to it.

not sure what more you can from a person on elitetrader.

Its not about calling out who wins the election, its about pointing out crap polls with slanted templates.

Do you think ABC should be using a Democrat plus 8 template? or do you think that template is skewed.

You want to bet that don't use that template in late october and november?





Tony Stark said:
Has Trump taken the lead in the jem algo? Please keep us updated,I'd like to compare the jem algo results to the polls you consider garbage after the election.Personally I think the jem algo is going to be the worst in 2016,even surpassing Rasmussen.Don't take that as an insult,I'm just going by the jem algos methodology and 2012 results.

Hillary is up by 4 in the TS algo.
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jem said:
the algo got it the process correct.

I predicted the herding had to happen in front of the election because the polls were skewed and it happened. and Nate Silver now explains that was "herding".

not sure what more you can from a person on elitetrader.
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Who does the jem algo have ahead right now and by how many points?
 
tell me what you think about ABC having a D plus 8 template now and if you think they will use that in late october, november.

We see that other polls like the PPP slants their polls internally by manipulating the amount of African Americans in the poll.

And some polls like the crap NBC polls does not even show their mix of RvsDvsI when I have tried to find it.

I have no desire to try and unskew polls when polls that don't even take themselves seriously right now.

So the algo is not going to run until the herding.
 
jem said:
tell me what you think about ABC having a D plus 8 template now and if you think they will use that in late october, november.

We see that other polls like the PPP slants their polls internally by manipulating the amount of African Americans in the poll.

And some polls like the crap NBC polls does not even show their mix of RvsDvsI when I have tried to find it.

I have no desire to try and unskew polls when polls that don't even take themselves seriously right now.

So the algo is not going to run until the herding.
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Based on ABC's previous excellent poll results if they think the plus 8 template is credible so do I.

jem,the subject of the thread is the jem algo and now you won't run it? multiple polls show the numbers you look at and isn't it part of the jem algos job to unherd? You don't think its a bit hypocritical to criticize other polls and call other polls garbage and cowards when you won't even run and post the results of the jem algo?
 
1. IF ABC has a plus 8 poll now... but after the herding has a democrat plus 3 or 4 poll will you admit the plus 8 poll was skewed?

2. the subject of the thread was about whether Trump was winning... the title of the thread says "even without the Algo". I was not running the algo because the polls were playing games. Many them, like the crap NBC poll were not revealing their templates.
 
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