The Pathology of the Conservative

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Backed into a corner, Pabst reverts back to what comes most naturally.

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Again!!

This is exactly what happened in the ID thread. In this case Pabst has taken the role of kjkent et al. Pabst is asking directed, specific questions based solely on the content of Z's posts. Z is refusing to answer them. Pabst is cutting and pasting directly from Z's posts to illustrate the contradictions and inconsistencies in his position. And in the end, what do we get?

Z starts to accuse people of making personal attacks!!!

This is exactly the way things went in the ID thread. I was warned via PM by another member that this is what Z does when he is backed into a corner and can't escape. It is probable that right now, the moderators are getting a PM per minute complaining about the personal attacks that are occurring. It doesn't seem to dawn on Z that these challenges to his assertions, based on material taken directly from his posts, are actually attempts to give him a chance to explain his views, in light of the apparent contradictions we find. We continue to give him credit for this ability.

So, Z... I will summarize. Pabst has made three posts in which he has asked you specific questions based on the content of your posts. We now await your response. He showed three ways in which Reagan was far from being a centrist as you claimed, and then he provided proof that your comments re: California politics were inaccurate. Finally, he showed that your opinions regarding Reagan seem to be formulated on the fly and are subject to change depending upon the nature of the question being posed to you. He provided quotes from your posts today in support of this claim. And remember, your tactics in the past, namely

1) Claiming that you are being attacked personally

2) Claiming that the questions being put to you are 'stupid'

3) Stating that you did not solicit the opinion of others and that when you require it you will ask for it and

4) Posting bizarre cartoon images from your personal library

will not be sufficient. In fact, they have never been sufficient.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Backed into a corner, Pabst reverts back to what comes most naturally.
Personal attacks...
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Just for the record.. it is so bizarre that Z thinks that he can just make these claims up out of whole cloth when the whole community can read the post in question and see that, far from being a personal attack, it is a direct cut and paste from Z's own posts!!! Here is the text of Pabst's post, the one that Z quoted when he made his claim of personal attack!!
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz

Reagan was able to bring people together, I personally am not a fan of Reagan, but at least he was able to govern from more of a centrist position rather than from the extreme,

....the mainstream conservatism of Reagan, Goldwater, and other gentlemen who happened to embrace conservatism.
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But just one hour later Z has spun a 180 on Reagan:
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There are some true conservatives whose views remain in line with historical conservatism, but even they often embrace William F. Buckley / Ronald Reagan right wing extremism.

Thanks to Buckley, Reagan, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, most so-called "conservatives" are really nothing of the kind.
Right wingers cling to known "misleaders" like Reagan, Bush and Bush, deifying the undeserving. Meanwhile they hate champions of social progress who seek to help them attain wealth, health and wisdom.

They accept as religious doctrine that the corrupt, inept Reagan -- who had 140 criminals in his White House, blocked research and education on AIDS, and supported death squads who killed Nuns and terrorists who killed 240 US Marines -- was moral, but Bill and Hillary Clinton are evil incarnate.
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Unfortunately, Z cannot censure anyone in this community for the use of the word 'stupid', since he himself called people stupid about 50 times in the ID thread.
 
Reading comprehension issues I see...if it gets you off....whatever.

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Oh, noooow I see. First you called Reagan a 'centrist', and then called him and William Buckley right wingers. And you made that 180 proving your point......

And you did it on purpose to 'provide sufficent fodder' to allow people to reach their preconceived notions......

BWAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA.....
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Your comments are really much "stupider" than I could have imagined.

Congratulations!!!

(now we will watch to see if this personality can figure out the difference between calling his comments stupid, and calling him stupid....personally, I rather doubt he will be able to make the distinction, based on past performance....)

Quote from traderNik:

Just for the record.. it is so bizarre that Z thinks that he can just make these claims up out of whole cloth when the whole community can read the post in question and see that, far from being a personal attack, it is a direct cut and paste from Z's own posts!!! Here is the text of Pabst's post, the one that Z quoted when he made his claim of personal attack!!

But just one hour later Z has spun a 180 on Reagan:
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Unfortunately, Z cannot censure anyone in this community for the use of the word 'stupid', since he himself called people stupid about 50 times in the ID thread. [/QUOTE]
 
It is great that you are spending time introspectively, then publicly admitting to your own self worth issues.

Best of luck on your progress in this area.....

Quote from Haroki:

Self worth issues I see.... whatever.
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quote from me and a quote that summarizes every question that Z has been unable to answer
So, Z... I will summarize. Pabst has made three posts in which he has asked you specific questions based on the content of your posts. We now await your response. He showed three ways in which Reagan was far from being a centrist as you claimed, and then he provided proof that your comments re: California politics were inaccurate. Finally, he showed that your opinions regarding Reagan seem to be formulated on the fly and are subject to change depending upon the nature of the question being posed to you. He provided quotes from your posts today in support of this claim. And remember, your tactics in the past, namely

1) Claiming that you are being attacked personally

2) Claiming that the questions being put to you are 'stupid'

3) Stating that you did not solicit the opinion of others and that when you require it you will ask for it and

4) Posting bizarre cartoon images from your personal library

will not be sufficient. In fact, they have never been sufficient.
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Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Your comments are really much "stupider" than I could have imagined.
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Ah, I see... my comments are stupid. I am not stupid, but my comments are. Okay, so you don't feel that my comments are a personal attack, right?

Right, Z? Please confirm that this is correct. If you say that someone's questions are stupid, that does not, in your mind, constitute a personal attack. I am very very eager to get your confirmation on this, for reasons that will become apparent. When the questions get difficult to answer, you often start to accuse people of personal attacks in these thread. You have also called about 50 people's questions 'stupid'.

Okay, my comments are stupid. Now, what about these questions? Are they stupid as well? They are taken directly from the content of this thread; they have nothing to do with personal attacks, as you have confirmed. We are asking for specific clarifications of things you have said.

We await your response

Tick......tock.....
 
Tock Tick...

LOL

No, suggesting that someone's comments are stupid is not an insult toward their person necessarily. It may be, it might not be. Many very intelligent people make stupid comments at times, often on purpose and/or as part of a particular agenda.

In your case however, I think it is obvious where the stupid comments come from...only a very stupid person couldn't figure if your stupid comments and stupid questions are the product of an intelligent or a stupid mind...

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Quote from traderNik:

Ah, I see... my comments are stupid. I am not stupid, but my comments are. Okay, so you don't feel that my comments are a personal attack, right?

Right, Z? Please confirm that this is correct. If you say that someone's questions are stupid, that does not, in your mind, constitute a personal attack. I am very very eager to get your confirmation on this, for reasons that will become apparent. When the questions get difficult to answer, you often start to accuse people of personal attacks in these thread. You have also called about 50 people's questions 'stupid'.

Okay, my comments are stupid. Now, what about these questions? Are they stupid as well? They are taken directly from the content of this thread; they have nothing to do with personal attacks, as you have confirmed. We are asking for specific clarifications of things you have said.

We await your response

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Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

In your case however, I think it is obvious where the stupid comments come from...only a very stupid person couldn't figure if your stupid comments and stupid questions are the product of an intelligent or a stupid mind...
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yes, okay Z. So... what about those questions?

We await your answers.
 
What questions?

"We" need to know what questions you are talking about.

Quote from traderNik:

yes, okay Z. So... what about those questions?

We await your answers.
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