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1. here are the footnotes to the article which your source is using to support its / your argument...

2. A study claiming the virus must be natural because they did not find typical targeted pattern a human engineer might work with does not debunk the concept that it was engineered in an atypical manner.

3. Many scientists have debunked your debunking.

I am not taking a position on this being engineered in a lab or not.
I am saying your argument has been weighed and found wanting.


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Are you trying to claim that scientists at UNC-Chapel Hill were involved in creating COVID-19? If yes, then you are shoveling debunked nonsense.
 
If covid never had been invented and leaked there would never had been lockdowns and restrictions.

If there were never a China...would the world be safer from diseases or would there just be another country that behaves like China ???

:rolleyes: :D :wtf:

wrbtrader
 
Hey, just cause you're stupid doesn't mean everyone else is. You might want to take your tin foil hat off.

Where do you feel like starting

Funders?
Chinese government, US government, DARPA

Researchers?
Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chapel Hill-NC, USAMRIID, Pirbright Institute

Leakers?
Beijing (SARS 1.0), Wuhan (SARS 2.0 / COVID-19)

Dumbass
Hey, just because you can type doesn't mean YOU have a clue.
 
Neither the supposition that the virus was lab made or that it was transmitted from the animal world to humans has been 100% confirmed.

But to believe those crafty Chinese infected themselves to get back at the U.S. or western countries in general is - to pull an old internet meme - Fonzie Jumping The Shark nonsense.

What this nonsense is all about is ....... tRump loooooooooost. Get over it already.
 
What you wrote is reasonable...

Which still leaves as a reasonable hypothesis (in my absolutely non expert opinion) that it was engineered but escaped by mistake or some level of negligence.

Neither the supposition that the virus was lab made or that it was transmitted from the animal world to humans has been 100% confirmed.

But to believe those crafty Chinese infected themselves to get back at the U.S. or western countries in general is - to pull an old internet meme - Fonzie Jumping The Shark nonsense.

What this nonsense is all about is ....... tRump loooooooooost. Get over it already.
 
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