The Origins of World War III

Quote from crash n burn:

it is striking absurd how the status quo has been able to communicate so effectively a way-of-life that is built upon such shallow and empty foundations. but what really amazes me is how the vast majority of human beings has absolutely fell for it and follow it as a supreme quest to happiness.

the white picket fence , 2 1/2 cars and a good paying career does us no good if we are not happy...which is the case for the majority of people...my Cuban gardner , wears the same clothes has a beat up truck and is 60 yrs old busting his ass and is happy as hell at least it seems to me...crazy how we are taught to strive for the good things in life when in fact the good things are here and now all around you...peace
 
Quote from SNBthetrue:

As the Elite is more than one I don't see it fit with world monopoly... And as power is hard to share even more for power addicts...:D

The Global "Governance" Agenda is doing pretty good, so far.

And Rome, Greece and England lasted centuries despite their fair share of internal jockeying.
 
Quote from SNBthetrue:

that's the problem of the war for the mind... it's illegal in my view. And totally uncompatible with the ideal of a free market. Where it's the products/services that make the trade off and not some kind of virtual mental reality created trough psywar and warpropaganda tacticts... It's just painfull to live in for everyone and distorts wrongly the market... by creating a perception opposed to a reality. Ads should be more informative and less subliminals...

I couldn't have said it any better myself. I turn on Real Player and here's some hippie (who was randomly given a decent voice by the genetics broker) talking about being good at shaking hands. I do NOT want to phukkin listen to this xenoestrogenic bs. Because he conned enough people into listening to his pseudo-intellectual garbage, he has acquired the capital to obtain control of the instrument I use to play the music that I prefer to listen to. It's a complete mindf*ck, I don't want to live here anymore. All the network marketing con artists attempting to obfuscate wealth (before the gov't ultimately does) is getting tiresome.

Listening to some old George Carlin is helping me not give a f*ck. It's hard because someday I want to raise children in this world and the biggest question I have for parents is when do you take their innocence?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Not quite.

The Elite already own everything.

What you refer to as the "status quo" was really just a temporary vehicle to consolidate wealth.

That stage is done with.

Now, "they" will destroy the free markets to ensure their competition can't follow them up the Bean Stalk. Controlling seigniorage rights in every major economy gives the Elite unlimited wealth backstopped by Law.

What comes next is global "depopulation". Remember, there are too many people in the world, after all....


it is not about ownership.

it is about power.

the middle class allows the elite to keep their power, as their role in the society is insulating them from the pockets of dissent.

this relationship has been pin pointed by many authors in last decades, i.e. orwell, huxley, etc and has became increasingly evident during the last 20 years when the world marched towards globalization.

free markets doesn't exist today and never existed before. it is all part of their agenda to convince people they can also join the club of the wealthy and powerful countries/people/families etc. this club is not open and free markets is an hoax.

depopulation is a myth IMHO. we have the world on terror to serve that purpose.
 
Quote from achilles28:

The emergence of the Middle Class was a compromise made to accommodate the benefits of free markets while not undermining European Kings/Lords.

Free markets create wealth. That wealth creates power, which was essentially managed through the extension of credit. Or, in the old days, the granting of land, favors to the nobility (today's middle class). I agree.

But when the Surfs and Nobility got too uppity, they changed the face of Brittania, didn't they?

Since Corporations took control of America, they sought to abolish the Middle Class. Although originally, they were the engine of wealth creation, the Country was bought long ago with the very money they made. So we're no longer necessary. And we're also a threat.

Which is why "they" have attacked Free Markets with such vengeance. To kill their competition.

You do not appear to understand the role of the middle class.

Whether they were "freeman" in times of slavery or "freeman" in feudal times, their role was always to protect nobility from the underclass and they feared losing their "privileges" more than they feared right from wrong.
As they grew, they formed a very useful tax base which effectively discounted their cost but not their value and since they were the servile class they were allowed to grow in numbers.
They added consumption to their portfolio and in return they were rewarded with credit, unavailable to the unruly lower classes.

Globalization will add a billion or two to this tax paying consumer based middle class and nobody in their right mind will wantonly destroy any part of the middle class.

Their destruction has come as an error from the greedy extension of credit down through the ranks, not through any intentional desire ... why would you bite the hand that helps feed you.

However the lower class in US is another story and there are simply to many of them as the country move into the 21st century.
 
Quote from crash n burn:

free markets doesn't exist today and never existed before. it is all part of their agenda to convince people they can also join the club of the wealthy and powerful countries/people/families etc. this club is not open and free markets is an hoax.


I agree with you that the markets aren't free... they aren't as long as they don't regulate themselves...

However I am sorry but everyone can join this losers club... Open a 1$ trading account and start to build your "wealth". And in the Wild West none knocks on the door of the bar before entering... that's why everyone sits facing the door...
:D
 
Quote from crash n burn:

it is not about ownership.

it is about power.

the middle class allows the elite to keep their power, as their role in the society is insulating them from the pockets of dissent.

this relationship has been pin pointed by many authors in last decades, i.e. orwell, huxley, etc and has became increasingly evident during the last 20 years when the world marched towards globalization.

free markets doesn't exist today and never existed before. it is all part of their agenda to convince people they can also join the club of the wealthy and powerful countries/people/families etc. this club is not open and free markets is an hoax.

depopulation is a myth IMHO. we have the world on terror to serve that purpose.

Ownership is power. And power is ownership.

The right to lawfully seize present and future labor of citizens is involuntary servitiude. Or neo-feudalism. Ownership over a persons TIME = slavery.

We're actually in agreement on quite a bit, just the semantics are different.

The middle class always existed. It just got bigger over time. To claim it was an invention by the Elite to "control" the underclass is silly.

The industrial revolution and all the attendant wealth created from that, was no more the result of a conspiracy then Edison's invention of the light bulb. Free markets really do create wealth. The side effect of that is upward mobility for the poor into a Middle Class.

National economies were forced to industrialize via prisoners dilemma (innovate or get conquered), and followed suit. Hence, the emergent middle class.

Lots of historical societies had a very small ruling and middle class with a broad underclass, and survived centuries. One king can't rule a million slaves without middle managers.

I agree markets have never been truly free. But lets use the relevant definition of the term. Meaning contemporary markets. A ton of private wealth and innovation was created despite not being truly free.

And the environmental scaremongering for depopulation is bullshit. I agree. But our Global Leaders are pushing it anyway. Their target is a half a billion people. I'm sure you're aware of the Georgia Guidestones. We're the disease, friend. They own us and hold all the cards. We're a threat to their existence. Hence, depopulation.
 
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