The Opening Orders Thread

Quote from Arnie:

Has anyone experimented with "No" envelope? In other words, you enter buys .01 below prev close and shorts .01 above prev close.

We actually had an elderly lady, family friend, who was struggling with pricing, so my brother told her to go in a penny under and a penny over on AOL (TWX), and she made some pretty good money, LOL.

"Lescor" - I undestand your point, it's just that I don't like buying something a little above previous close, when the rest of the market gaps way up. But, there is no argement to your success!!

Don
 
Quote from lescor:

I never skew my envelopes. My buy and sell levels are the same irregardless of how much the market is gapping. To me skewing your envelopes is akin to making a bet on what's going to happen after the open. I try to remove as much guesswork as I can and be ambivalent as to direction.

Lescor -

I know you keep great stats; have you ever checked to see if there was any discernable performance difference in "up" buys or "down" sells (on those stocks that allow it)?
 
Don you say

"Just a comment. When the market is opening up 4 or 5 S&P points, it's a good idea to have a wider buy envelope, and a more narrow sell envelope.

I used .65 buy, and .3 sell, for example.

Just my personal method. "


why?

in any event would be more logical that the sell envelope was wider and buy more narrow envelope

thank you
bye
 
Quote from Sheik:

Don you say

"Just a comment. When the market is opening up 4 or 5 S&P points, it's a good idea to have a wider buy envelope, and a more narrow sell envelope.

I used .65 buy, and .3 sell, for example.

Just my personal method. "


why?

in any event would be more logical that the sell envelope was wider and buy more narrow envelope

thank you
bye

A couple of things. First, since I have already adjusted the selling price to reflect a much higher opening (FV estimated opening price already up), I don't want a wider sell envelope because it would put the SS price so far away it has little chance of being filled. The FV calculation has already moved the price up.

Secondly, I widen the buy side to keep it below the previous day's closing price. I don't like to buy anything barely above yesterday's closing price when the rest of the market is opening up a lot. If it can't open up a lot, with the market, I don't want to be stuck long the stupid thing, LOL.

Don
 
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