The odds of day trading yourself to a profit are lower than you expect"

Well it was a great experience. You misunderstand. I loved it. But it took me years to unlearn all of it. The point is, how much of what you learned was information, and how much of it was opinion? The correct answer is that most of it was opinion or theory. We don't really know very much. Once you realize this it frees you to see the world as it is, as much as you are able.
 
"When I think back
On a all the crap I learned in high school
It's a wonder I can think at all.
And though my lack of education hasn't hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall."--Paul Simon Kodachrome
 
You have to use a different part of your brain to trade.

The human brain is by default programmed to make trading impossible or at least very inefficient.

What separates the winning from losing traders is the way they use their most powerful trading tool—the human brain.

The average time and effort required to achieve expertise in trading is 10 years and 10,000-20,000 hours of practice. Moreover, it is the quality of the practice, the complete immersion in the subject and the ability to profit through ever-changing market cycles that separates trading winners from losers.

Continuous training the brain is also necessary. Compare it to sportsmen: they have to do daily exercises to keep their body in good shape. The same applies to traders. I still train on historical data to keep my brain sharp, on a daily basis.
 
I disagree.

If you go to a good university and take a science related degree or economics, you will have to apply yourself and work extremely hard to get good results. It will teach you work ethics and analytical skills. You also have deadlines to adhere to. There's plenty of people who fail at this since they lack both discipline and smarts.

Now, I'm not saying it will teach you to trade or that you need a degree to become a trader, but a higher education definitely hold some sort of value.

I don't think most people take the art of learning trading as seriously as elite students do their academical studies. Many students work 10+ hours per day as much as 7 days per week in their final periods.

I wonder what results a would-be trader could achive if he did that for say three years? The equivalent of a bachelors degree. Or say five years for a masters degree. Or 8+ years for a PhD degree.

I'm sure most don't.

You're crediting the university education with general maturing of a person. If you enter at 19 years of age and graduate when 23 then of course you're more disciplined - simply because you aren't a pile of raging hormones any longer.

Discipline is inherent rather than learned. I consider myself quite disciplined and don't have a degree. It's probably true that education forces one to learn discipline faster but smarts...not really. It will however kill part of your original thinking making you a standardized tool for the economy in most cases.

For trading you have to have the same approach, work tirelessly with everything else being secondary. But instead of slowly learning general knowledge (for the most part) you will learn a very specific skill. It's also important to start very early as your brain is malleable in your early 20s - it was for me, especially learning fast and creative thinking. I'm glad I dropped out of higher education back then.
 
Agreed, it's what you can get out of it, not the standards set by others.
When you start thinking like that that's when you start making serious $$$.
It's all about breaking the shackles and taking it to another level.

I agree, with this statement...you get out of life what you expect and want to get out of it.

When I was in college after high school...I felt like a zombie there, I was just there because that's where kids are supposed to generally go after high school.
I changed my major like four times, I believe. I was just spinning my wheels there, not really getting nowhere or having direction.

I spent more time reading 'get rich' books, and self-help books, and entrepreneur and small business magazines. -- rather than the textbooks.
Also played alot of video games and tennis.

it's when you Really want something, and have purpose and pride and direction...that you can accomplish great things o_O:cool:
Most don't have that inner fire or purpose, and as a result...are just floating around in life. Happy or content to be average.
 
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Schools teach answers. Observation of the world teaches questions. If you look, you can see that most people approach the markets seeking answers first. Just look at the preoccupation with what the people who run the Fed are going to say. By professionals as well. There's this constant unease, this constant handwriting, trying to read some message in what they are communicating. As if somewhere out there there really is an answer which would satisfy. In the meantime, the markets trade, up and down, taking in new information.
 
That should say handwringing. Damn spell checker.
Look at how many students enter school, especially college with a sense of curiosity, then go on to lose most of it.
 
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