The Next Bubble

Quote from pepper_john:

is there any difference between what US is trying to do and what China is?
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US won't toss out its Constitution. At worst it will lop a couple zeros off the dollar (after it reaches 100/1 to the Euro) and start afresh.

In China the ruling party officials could get shot and we could see anarchy overtake much of the country.

Quite different.
 
Quote from BlueHorseshoe:

US won't toss out its Constitution. At worst it will lop a couple zeros off the dollar (after it reaches 100/1 to the Euro) and start afresh.

In China the ruling party officials could get shot and we could see anarchy overtake much of the country.

Quite different.
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You are talking about politics and I was talking about economics. Obviously.
 
Quote from pepper_john:

You are talking about politics and I was talking about economics. Obviously.
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Economics and politics are inseparable my friend.

Another difference:

US is trying to shore up the almighty consumer via credit assurance and stimulus checks.

China is lighting a rocket underneath infrastructure investment: roads, bridges ... stuff like that.

Thus, the result of US efforts would be to see US consumers pile on more debt to buy lots of cheap foreign goods, while the Chinese aim to put their country to work investing in their future.
 
Quote from Cygnus Atratus:

The media always gives us an impression that all you guys do is hunting,drive 8 litre SUVs and eat burgers with fries & syrup with 2 gallon soda cans. Yes British teeth are not exactly the best around...... :D
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You've been mis-informed. We do not eat syrup with our fries. We eat ketchup (known to you brits as "catsup") Also we dont drink 2 gallon sodas, we only drink half gallon sodas (surprised you know what a gallon is!) But the rest of it is pretty true about eating burgers & fries, hunting and driving SUVs. :D

British teeth are bad because of all the tea you drink. Heck, you dont even call it dinner time over there, you call it "tea time". Whats that about? :P

Oh wait, i think you do have a dinner time over there only your dinner is what we call lunch if i remember right. (been a few years since i was there)
 
The USA!

First the USD will hyperinflate, US social structure collapses (it's infrastructure has allready collapsed some time ago) after which some kind of peace force will come in (blackstone), bring some kind of peace back to the nation and there you have it.

A path towards 20 years of amazing growth in one of the most resource rich countries out there. A dream come true if you are a multinational.

This is how it is going to play out, I think.

Not a pretty sight but this has happened before.

Look at Germany.

Hyperinflated, bankrupted, bombed to pieces an enemy NR 1 worldwide for decades and one of the biggest economic powerhouses and creditor nations of the world today.

Things do get better at some time.
 
Quote from sumosam:

in any case, the world will survive, and prosper once again. cycles are key....time seems to solve things.
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there are cycles then there are greater cycles

cells in your body live and die, then new ones are born. But then they experience a greater cycle; your life and death

here is the billion dollar question; is this just like the regular economic downturn we have seen in the past or is this a phase in the greater cycle?

you know there must be a cycle in the number of humans that can live on this planet ...
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

Tbills are at 0%.
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Yeah ... thinking now how many saw the RE bubble, and the NQ bubble. They can persist for a frustratingly long time, until some key event cracks the floodgate. Wonder what that event will be with rates ...
 
I presume you mean Blackwater, not 'Blackstone.'

Nahh, that's not going to happen.


China is the next bubble, and despite the precipitous decline in its equity markets, it is in the process of collapsing right now, for all the world to see.

They say 'don't fight the tape' in stocks.

I say 'don't fight the macro trend in corrupt, inefficient, and incredibly desperate (for growth) countries.'

China is about to implode.



Quote from Debaser82:

The USA!

First the USD will hyperinflate, US social structure collapses (it's infrastructure has allready collapsed some time ago) after which some kind of peace force will come in (blackstone), bring some kind of peace back to the nation and there you have it.

A path towards 20 years of amazing growth in one of the most resource rich countries out there. A dream come true if you are a multinational.

This is how it is going to play out, I think.

Not a pretty sight but this has happened before.

Look at Germany.

Hyperinflated, bankrupted, bombed to pieces an enemy NR 1 worldwide for decades and one of the biggest economic powerhouses and creditor nations of the world today.

Things do get better at some time.
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