The New Math: Quantitative hedge funds are pressing into new realms of science

Quote from nitro:

Mathematics (Algebraic Geometry) and I am an avid reader of unification physics.

I am a professional programmer that trades.

nitro
We're a lot alike. I'm an avid watcher of Family Guy and a professional wastrel who gambles.
:D
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

And what do you think are the chances of that happening?

Before these guys set their sights on Mars, they should first prove to themselves that they can land on the moon. Stated differently, they should first try to predict female behavior with their models. If they can achieve that, then they may have a sporting chance at figuring out the markets.

“I think there is a law tying everything together.”
You can't make this stuff up. :D

"The fund, which despite its struggles...
Has delivered an annualized return of 10 percent since its 1999 inception,
Began this year with just $400 million in assets."

10% Big Deal. And the guy thinks he's Einstein.
 
Quote from makloda:

Ph.D. in theoretical physics from Princeton University

The trouble with physicists as a whole is that they are physicists first and mathematicians second, often using math tools unaware if the tool is really applicable. Armed with the powerful applicability of the math, and lacking a real understanding of the foundations on which the math rests, quants build models in an almost blind manner. Nothing wrong with that, even Einstein needed help from Grossman and Hilbert.

But, it took LTCM disaster to expand the definition of risk and make Nassim Taleeb a household name.

Sort of: “oops, we’ve just discovered non-euclidian geometry”. Really funny.
 
all these whiz kids could have made much more more money for virtually no work just going long in MOS, BIDU, MA, on double margin last year...
 
Quote from DeeDeeTwo:
"The fund, which despite its struggles...
Has delivered an annualized return of 10 percent since its 1999 inception,
Began this year with just $400 million in assets."

10% Big Deal. And the guy thinks he's Einstein.
10% net of fees annualized over 10 years is a big deal in the market neutral space, like it or not.
 
Quote from makloda:

10% net of fees annualized over 10 years is a big deal in the market neutral space, like it or not.

I agree. A lot of people on ET do not understand that making 100% return a month on 5K of capital is a lot easier than making 10% a month on a 100 M or 10% a year on 10B. That "scalability" fantasy does not exist. People would not let you trade 100M or 10B if you are not market neutral! And if you are then 10% is fantastic!
 
Quote from nitro:


Traders "solve" this problem by "acting" in a holographic way at multiple time frames...
nitro

A very insightful statement! I concur!
 
Quote from MAESTRO:

I agree. A lot of people on ET do not understand that making 100% return a month on 5K of capital is a lot easier than making 10% a month on a 100 M or 10% a year on 10B. That "scalability" fantasy does not exist. People would not let you trade 100M or 10B if you are not market neutral! And if you are then 10% is fantastic!

There is always the 'blow up' factor associated with these exotic trading tools. You can make 10-15% a year and then have a really bad year and lose 40% even when the market is flat or up.
 
Quote from MAESTRO:

I agree. A lot of people on ET do not understand that making 100% return a month on 5K of capital is a lot easier than making 10% a month on a 100 M or 10% a year on 10B. That "scalability" fantasy does not exist. People would not let you trade 100M or 10B if you are not market neutral! And if you are then 10% is fantastic!

Exactly!

And to the clown who said that quant investing began in in 80s and ended in 2006? Such untrammeled arrogance/ingnorance!
 
Quote from Spaceman3:

Exactly!

And to the clown who said that quant investing began in in 80s and ended in 2006? Such untrammeled arrogance/ingnorance!

I take it that you feel that they have just been taking a break for the last two years.

Would you estimate when the break is going to be over (in time or trillions, your choice)?

If outsourcing is going to come on the table, when and where?
 
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