The new coronormal

[Daal]

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/02/13/how-well-will-vaccines-work?itm_source=parsely-api

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The new coronormal
The adjustment to living with covid-19 begins with medical science. Work has already started on tweaking vaccines to confer protection against variants. That should go along with more surveillance of mutations that are spreading and accelerated regulatory approval for booster shots. Meanwhile treatments will be required to save more of those who contract the disease from death or serious illness. The best outcome would be for a combination of acquired immunity, regular booster jabs of tweaked vaccines and a menu of therapies to ensure that covid-19 need rarely be life-threatening. But that outcome is not guaranteed.

To the extent that medicine alone cannot prevent lethal outbreaks of covid-19, the burden will also fall on behaviour, just as it has in most of the pandemic. But rather than national lockdowns and months-long school closures, which come at a huge price, the responsibility should fall more heavily on individuals. Habits like mask-wearing may become part of everyday life. Vaccine passports and restrictions in crowded spaces could become mandatory. Vulnerable people will have to maintain great vigilance. Those who refuse vaccination can expect health-education and encouragement, but limited protection. As our special report on the travel industry makes clear, people’s desire to live their lives will ultimately be hard to resist, even in autocracies like China that may be reluctant to leave zero-tolerance behind."

Here is an alternative, how about encouraging people to lose weight, eat better, exercise and take care of their immune systems by avoiding common nutritional deficiencies? Funny how common sense often is lacking in public policy

 

[Nobert]

, how about encouraging people to lose weight, eat better, exercise

Tried that for the last 15 yrs. Never seen it working tho. Either one has that inner drive/self motivation or he/she does not.

 

[destriero]

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/02/13/how-well-will-vaccines-work?itm_source=parsely-api

"
The new coronormal
The adjustment to living with covid-19 begins with medical science. Work has already started on tweaking vaccines to confer protection against variants. That should go along with more surveillance of mutations that are spreading and accelerated regulatory approval for booster shots. Meanwhile treatments will be required to save more of those who contract the disease from death or serious illness. The best outcome would be for a combination of acquired immunity, regular booster jabs of tweaked vaccines and a menu of therapies to ensure that covid-19 need rarely be life-threatening. But that outcome is not guaranteed.

To the extent that medicine alone cannot prevent lethal outbreaks of covid-19, the burden will also fall on behaviour, just as it has in most of the pandemic. But rather than national lockdowns and months-long school closures, which come at a huge price, the responsibility should fall more heavily on individuals. Habits like mask-wearing may become part of everyday life. Vaccine passports and restrictions in crowded spaces could become mandatory. Vulnerable people will have to maintain great vigilance. Those who refuse vaccination can expect health-education and encouragement, but limited protection. As our special report on the travel industry makes clear, people’s desire to live their lives will ultimately be hard to resist, even in autocracies like China that may be reluctant to leave zero-tolerance behind."

Here is an alternative, how about encouraging people to lose weight, eat better, exercise and take care of their immune systems by avoiding common nutritional deficiencies? Funny how common sense often is lacking in public policy

bc it's an OOM easier to get a shot; and it maintains the status quo of America's diet and and Coke's earnings and USGDP remains (largely) intact.

 

[Turveyd]

People below 60 and this is a fact, have a better chance of dying from regular flu than Covid19 so I'm below 60 and ignored regular Flu, I say we all just ignore Covid19 accept people will die as always and accept a few more will die not many though as most people have had it, there already saying vaccines won't work for the early takers much past September. And if you've had it before the vaccine then the vaccine kills your natural immunity which would of lasted for ever ever then you can actually get it again and it'll also likely be worse much worse, yeah science

80% reduction in deaths just by taking cheap ish D3 capsules, also fact and science, just tell people to sunbathe and over the winter give them D3 capsules, sorted.


Never had anything as yet, a few good sessions in the gym can't fix, falling apart here no gym in 3months+, hopefully 12th for a few weeks but not holding my breathe, left knee is wrecked as haven't been able to do my strengthening exercises

 

[Turveyd]

Tried that for the last 15 yrs. Never seen it working tho. Either one has that inner drive/self motivation or he/she does not.

I had it, lost loads by xmas down 2stone and looking pretty good for me, 3 months of lockdown and no gym and crappy food, put most of the weight back on, lost all the muscle.

Stayed on target I'd be trying to qualify for a PMC contract, 6 months in some hell hole for loads of money after 3months training on the old SAS base near me Not even going to try LIFE!!!

 

[aqtrader]

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/02/13/how-well-will-vaccines-work?itm_source=parsely-api

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Here is an alternative, how about encouraging people to lose weight, eat better, exercise and take care of their immune systems by avoiding common nutritional deficiencies? Funny how common sense often is lacking in public policy

Yes. Also drink Emergen-C...

 

[JSOP]

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/02/13/how-well-will-vaccines-work?itm_source=parsely-api

"
The new coronormal
The adjustment to living with covid-19 begins with medical science. Work has already started on tweaking vaccines to confer protection against variants. That should go along with more surveillance of mutations that are spreading and accelerated regulatory approval for booster shots. Meanwhile treatments will be required to save more of those who contract the disease from death or serious illness. The best outcome would be for a combination of acquired immunity, regular booster jabs of tweaked vaccines and a menu of therapies to ensure that covid-19 need rarely be life-threatening. But that outcome is not guaranteed.

To the extent that medicine alone cannot prevent lethal outbreaks of covid-19, the burden will also fall on behaviour, just as it has in most of the pandemic. But rather than national lockdowns and months-long school closures, which come at a huge price, the responsibility should fall more heavily on individuals. Habits like mask-wearing may become part of everyday life. Vaccine passports and restrictions in crowded spaces could become mandatory. Vulnerable people will have to maintain great vigilance. Those who refuse vaccination can expect health-education and encouragement, but limited protection. As our special report on the travel industry makes clear, people’s desire to live their lives will ultimately be hard to resist, even in autocracies like China that may be reluctant to leave zero-tolerance behind."

Here is an alternative, how about encouraging people to lose weight, eat better, exercise and take care of their immune systems by avoiding common nutritional deficiencies? Funny how common sense often is lacking in public policy

Only transparent masks are allowed if mask-wearing is going to be permanent. I want the MF that mugged me to be able to be picked up by the surveillance camera and not to be able to get away just because he is wearing a mask.

 

[JSOP]

People below 60 and this is a fact, have a better chance of dying from regular flu than Covid19 so I'm below 60 and ignored regular Flu, I say we all just ignore Covid19 accept people will die as always and accept a few more will die not many though as most people have had it, there already saying vaccines won't work for the early takers much past September. And if you've had it before the vaccine then the vaccine kills your natural immunity which would of lasted for ever ever then you can actually get it again and it'll also likely be worse much worse, yeah science

80% reduction in deaths just by taking cheap ish D3 capsules, also fact and science, just tell people to sunbathe and over the winter give them D3 capsules, sorted.


Never had anything as yet, a few good sessions in the gym can't fix, falling apart here no gym in 3months+, hopefully 12th for a few weeks but not holding my breathe, left knee is wrecked as haven't been able to do my strengthening exercises

Oh god you have been reading too much of those what I call voodoo medical articles just like my dear old mom. Every single time she sees me, she's yelling at me to take Vitamin D pills (she doesn't even know which one cuz there are 3 different kinds of Vitamin D's) and go to bed early. And at the same time she's complaining that the vaccine that she took is useless.

 

[Overnight]

There is a reason I post certain songs in various places on this site, where it seems to make no sense. For years nobody has puzzled it out. So much nuance, so much minutiae.

 

[Turveyd]

Oh god you have been reading too much of those what I call voodoo medical articles just like my dear old mom. Every single time she sees me, she's yelling at me to take Vitamin D pills (she doesn't even know which one cuz there are 3 different kinds of Vitamin D's) and go to bed early. And at the same time she's complaining that the vaccine that she took is useless.

I knew D3 link a year ago, they've recently confirmed if they give at early stages survival rate increases by 80% I bet most hospitals still aren't doing this.

I know quite a few pfizer vaccine then got Covid later, I'd swear a few of them had had it previously, so mignt not work and mignt erase previous antibody protection.