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It would not have to be rendered unattainable to cease the act in question. just cause something is attainable does not mean it will happen. I can attain alot more from life but i probably wont attain all that can be attainable. the necrosis i would imagine would change the pleasure or need for pleasure would it not? in doing lobotomies one looses their need to be violent or abusive. this may be because there is a loss of excitement, need or pleasure in preforming viloent acts. the question to be looked at is where the incision of the lobotomy takes place. is it effective if only the prosencephalon is separated.

To assume that "the act" will still be preformed by the individual with necrosis of the prosencephalon is simply juvenile to suggest without proper tests. I would suggest a deeper look in to the topic at hand and preform tests before posting such comments in the future. Some one could google this and decide not to take up the operation to cure their addiction. much of hollywood may refuse this treatment because of your post. lets please try to keep our posts accurate.

also lets work on the punctuation a bit more.

Thank you
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grasshopper the prosencephalon isnt predominantly associated with the dopamine neural excitement , we need to look towards the prefrontal cortex and nucleus accumbens parts of the brain . the necrosis would have to be intense to render mental masturbation unattainable
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Draw the right trendline through bars 43 and 48. Note where it puts the close of bar 51 in relationship to LTL. Note the resumption that shouldn't have occurred according to rule 8.
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It seems I'm getting the hang of it. See attached.

It also seems that Hershey didn't reply to your question about the bar 17 VE.
 

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Here I copied your file with your correct annotatiions of the "trading fractal" which is one fractal slower than the fastest observable fractal on your ninja chart.

Notice that your "cases" are placed on the ninja chart automatically except for the outside bar case. The lateral is shown as a yellow box on the ninja chart.

The VE close provides you with the principle to use to begin the next trading fractal as point 1 of the trading fractal.

To actively trade the trading fractal it is a great idea to annotate the faster fractal than the trading fractal. there are three faster moves, B2B 2R 2B , in the trading fractal. You show B2B between point1 and point 2. You show 2R between point 2 and point 3. You show 2B between point 3 and the VE which is the FTT of the trading fractal.

So a trade long happens on bar 0 the opening bar. You come the the violation of the bookmark (principle 4) and you wash and reverse to go to the NEW FTT where you take profits and reverse long (principle 5) to hold until you come the the defined FTT of the trading fractal.

As you look at the chart you DO see the close of the VE IS in the zone and you expect to see an M1 and an M2 (at a higher level that the original FTT maximum. Consider if the VE is a single translating bar or a first bar of a "case" (see principle 6 for RTL's, which is not the case and see principle 1 for annotating). The next bar is in the purple container right from its ninja charting beginning and the merged bars still have a close in the zone, meaning an M1 and an M2 will follow.

In the next post I will make my point clearer after you soak in this situation for a minute or two.
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The points 1, 2, and 3 on your chart look like a person beginning a day as if day to day is an independent matter. You also do not use a building blocks concept for WMCN.

We worked for a while in the past and you succeeded in growing your mind accordingly.

By looking closely at how the faster fractal is being composed, you get to study the nuances of the market.

Attached for your refined review is a closer look at the market from the view of the fast fractal on the chart.
 

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no words on my chart ?

i wonder if it solved the problem about bar line 17 or whatever bar you were referring to.

i didnt understand the delema you guys were having with it due to my FTU u= understand...

Also i included an Acronym in it to spark interest !
 

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The points 1, 2, and 3 on your chart look like a person beginning a day as if day to day is an independent matter. You also do not use a building blocks concept for WMCN.

We worked for a while in the past and you succeeded in growing your mind accordingly.

By looking closely at how the faster fractal is being composed, you get to study the nuances of the market.

Attached for your refined review is a closer look at the market from the view of the fast fractal on the chart.
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As you see the bars each have taken their rightful places in the development of the day.

The VE you missed and were questiioned about IS a point 2 of anaccelerated trading fractal that came about as a consequence of some restarted caused by fast fractal bookmarks.

Notice the outside bar IS a two point bar as well. Two points refers to each end which is a point on the faster fractal.

What happens with the trading is that as each bar is developing you always know in a binary vector measure manner WMCN. If you do not, you may notice that your feelings are prompting you according to Behavioral Finance. Any feelings of fear or anxiety or anger which are departures from support, comfort and confidence are personal signals warning you that you need to make a reasoned adjustment to your approach. Behavioral Finance explains how people are over reacting, underreacting and irrational. These behavioreactions need to be guarded against.

This thread is repleat with such goings on. It is fun to read this thread; it is a humorous as "The Predictors". Prediction is not part of expert trading to take the market's full offer. But a book about quants is entitled "The Predictors".

NOW is called the Present and that is where the market is traded to take the full offer.

For more precision on the faster fractal go to a faster market on a faster timeframe. Do the 2 minute YM using the 8 principles.

In time you will conclude to trade the ES faster fractal. this is as stated 20 minute and ten minute holds between reversals which shake snake......

Understanding that trades do not occur on bar closes, tote up the points on the faster fractal and see how many more than 60 points accumulate than o0n the FTT level trading fractal.
 
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stupid question, whats a green bookmark and whats WMCN again i don't know the lingo but this has popped up a few times and im curious
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Bookmarks are green horizontal lines of proper line weight that extend as rays into the future from the ftt or FTT.

What Must Come Next is a reference to the fact that in trading the OOE (Order Of Events) is what replaces time.

Lastly, there is a MAJOR MAJOR misunderstanding being used in this thread. Opposites are mentioned.

The paradigm set is NOT a set of opposite hypotheses. The HS is an orthogonal set. In markets, the parametric measures of HS are not opposites.

Change and Continue are NOT opposites.

As you see, getting principle 1 is a stumbling block for most. Lacking the ability to annotate, it is difficult to go forward to learn, by repetition, how to take the market's full offer.

Most displays do not show the market. As some know here, it sometimes takes years for display owners to get their acts together once it is explained to them.

There are several languages used to describe trading approaches. translating among the languages is real fun at times. That is part of the humor of this thread.
 
Spoken like a true nontrader. 60 pts on fast charts lol. It's too bad this site is all about traffic and not content. You would have been banned years ago.
 
the prediction is more based on current resistance lines where price goes is prices choice and any movement will not effect. for the sack of posting a chart once, and not updating it every 5 mins i made a "prediction" what i hope you will see is simply that price behaves a certain way around these lines if it stays in its current "situation". It is not a good reason to make a prediction but i find often when i do this on the spot it comes out surprising, I hope it does surprise some people if price behaves in its current short and long term trends.

maybe it will open up a forum to discuss and share ideas more directly.

i would agree it doesn't matter where price is going, as long as it is not going where i don't want it to go if that make any sense

my week end has come to an end it was fun touching base on the site again i hope to still be around now that i have found some threads that are more entertaining. till next time (possibly tomorrow) anyone who reads this thread to this point can email or pm me
 
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So I can contribute more than just nut bashing:

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/stocks/how_to/articles/Making-More-by-Trading-Less-81983.cfm

It is a nice alternative to shooting for 60 pts on fast charts lol.
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I clicked on the link and oh shit that's funny. That's the guy swinging his four-figure blotter around in people's faces. C'mon, man, is he related to you? I know you mean well but being a tout is pretty low. Will it take you another 10 years to see you're not much farther along at 28 than when you were at 18? These guys are all packaging and selling mediocrity. Mediocrity ain't gonna get you very far in this business. Seriously, I wish you the best. I really do.
 
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