If you believe in the teachings of Jesus but want to shit on religion then count me in. I am right there. When Jesus was teaching the only religion was my old tired jewish what you call "Old Testament" and Jesus shit all over that religion. I don't see any rabbis gettting invited to the Whitehouse. Sometimes you just got to shake it up, and that is what Jesus did. Who knew the ramifications and repurcussions? Now they got their own religion complete with a Pope and they are talking to congress. What would Jesus say about that?
The more the Pope walks with Jesus the further he gets from the "Christian Right"
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response... 1...
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
response 2.
Look I am not a big fan of this pope. I think he is jumbling up his message with politics...Nor.. am I big fan of the way the bishops and the pope have run the church over the centuries and I am particularly pissed at them not running the molesters out of the chruch as fast as the could (I suspect it was because many of them were molesters themselves which is why they got into the priesthood) ... but your question here... was softball.
3. You can think of the rabbis as a brood of vipers creating man made laws in accord with God's wishes. You can think of them as those flying around in jets acting moral telling others to watch their carbon footprints.
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
response 2.
Look I am not a big fan of this pope. I think he is jumbling up his message with politics...Nor.. am I big fan of the way the bishops and the pope have run the church over the centuries and I am particularly pissed at them not running the molesters out of the chruch as fast as the could (I suspect it was because many of them were molesters themselves which is why they got into the priesthood) ... but your question here... was softball.
3. You can think of the rabbis as a brood of vipers creating man made laws in accord with God's wishes. You can think of them as those flying around in jets acting moral telling others to watch their carbon footprints.
damn jem, it's 4:20 where I live. Are you stoned? Sounds like the kind of crap I post late at night. "rabbis as a brood of vipers"? At one time in my life my rabbi was a very accomplished pork bellie trader I'll have you know, and I suppose many of the goyam thought of us as a "Brood of vipers" (I wasn't in on that trade by the way. I think I've traded just about everything, but never bellies, too unpredictable unless you know a good rabbi, and I was new in town back then.)
ok, you go ahead and decide how your catholic church should be run. What does that have to do with the rest of us? Do you have any thoughts on how the Knights of Columbus should be reformed?
3. The old testament "laws of the rabbis" as you call them were written for one reason and for one reason only, and that was to insure the supremacy of the jewish family. How are we doing? Ah, a little holocaust here, a little discrimination there. It takes a heck of a lot more than that to keep us down. Good luck with your new religion. I hope it works as well for you as it did for us.
you asked the questions and I responded with biblical phrases.
Jesus told Peter on this rock I will build this church
and Jesus called the Saducees and Pharisees a brood of vipers.
see Matthew 3 verse 7..
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/3.htm
and Matthew 12 vs 34.
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/12.htm
By the way the Rabbis who wrote the Talmud... had many nasty things to say about Jesus.
Its not like I was making any of this up.
Jesus told Peter on this rock I will build this church
and Jesus called the Saducees and Pharisees a brood of vipers.
see Matthew 3 verse 7..
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/3.htm
and Matthew 12 vs 34.
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/12.htm
By the way the Rabbis who wrote the Talmud... had many nasty things to say about Jesus.
Its not like I was making any of this up.
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well not all rabbis are that way, and I am sure if you looked hard enough you could probably find an honest politician. But I will tell you, living under that old jewish law is tough. At some point we all need a little forgiveness.
Ah you kids and your new fangled Christian religion. What's next? Just forgive everybody?
I changed what I wrote to make more sense.
Its all about forgiveness. Obviously Jesus did not have problem with Jews... he took issue with political and religious leaders who got between men and God.
By the way I am think Jesus concerns would still be very relevant today. I would not necessarily want to be a religious leader making statements about what Jesus would say or want unless I could quote Jesus right out of the bible and in context.
Even then I would be careful... pray and ask for forgiveness just in case I made a mistake. Just like I am now. But, I am quite confident Jesus had issues with political and religious leaders.
Its all about forgiveness. Obviously Jesus did not have problem with Jews... he took issue with political and religious leaders who got between men and God.
By the way I am think Jesus concerns would still be very relevant today. I would not necessarily want to be a religious leader making statements about what Jesus would say or want unless I could quote Jesus right out of the bible and in context.
Even then I would be careful... pray and ask for forgiveness just in case I made a mistake. Just like I am now. But, I am quite confident Jesus had issues with political and religious leaders.
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Gee, that's a surprise. Everything else you write about is so well informed and presented clearly.
I rest my case.
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If the church isn't going to oppose the atheists commie fag agenda, then who is?
LOL, ricter thinks he's uncovered some 'secret fact'.
idiot