The Moral Decline Of The Late Great United States

[Mercor]

Quote from RCG Trader:

What he said:

If there were no Conservatives it would have happened in 1865.

The Liberals did as much as it could including dying in a brutal war.

What is actually the truth.

Abolitionist came from the Conservative philosophy.
It started in the evangelical churches of the day.

You can only defend Liberals/ democrats by changing the terminology.

Where you find Democrats in charge you find separate (but equal policies). It happened from 1865 to 1965 and is happening today in the urban cities.

It has taking 40 years for the Republicans in the South to flush out the racist Democrats. We have come a long way, long enough to see Blacks moving back to the South and away from the racist Democratic run cities.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from pspr:

When the Founders said that "all men are created equal" they didn't mean with equal abilities or equal outcomes. They meant with equal rights.

That is exactly my point.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

That, according your premise undermines the very foundation of the declaration.

Our forefathers did not anticipate such an overreaching government. In fact, they did all they could to prevent it.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I could care less who people want to marry. Let them marry each other...or farm animals. Or furniture. Let them have relationships with their relatives, or with construction machinery. To each, their own. I have no more right to tell them how to be happy than they have a right to tell me what to think or do.

Eventually, if they are allowed to do as they wish, they will breed themselves out of existence anyway (or NOT breed themselves into continuity, as the case may be). They will become fewer and fewer, and their noise will fade from time as they are allowed to pursue whatever end they choose. Meanwhile, men will continue to have children with women, and there won't be a single thing laws can do to make gays more fertile with each other. Nature saw fit to hardcode that.

I used to believe that. But think about it. If that were true, gays would have gone extinct long long ago.

No, homosexuality, is genetic. A certain percentage of our population will be gay, no matter what.

It is a position that I have "evolved" on.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Our forefathers did not anticipate such an overreaching government. In fact, they did all they can to prevent it.

That they did. I think if they knew then what was going to go on the last 100 years they would have put some more obvious limits on the federal government. I don't think they thought a few phrases in the Constitution would be read as openings to expand the Feds like has happened.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

That is exactly my point.

You mean the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Those rights?

Large segments of the population stood actively disenfranchised at the time of the declaration. Did the founders believe what they wrote, or not?

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from pspr:

That they did. I think if they knew then what was going to go on the last 100 years they would have put some more obvious limits on the federal government.

You can thank the GOP patron saint, Ronald Wilson Reagan for the first genuine expansion of executive power.

You remember?

That is when he flouted Congress and sold weapons to a State Sponsor of Terrorism?

Remember?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

I used to believe that. But think about it. If that were true, gays would have gone extinct long long ago.

No, homosexuality, is genetic. A certain percentage of our population will be gay, no matter what.

It is a position that I have "evolved" on.

I do not believe that it is genetic. I believe that there is a genetic pass on wherein the individual has a disposition towards cultivating that mindset, but I do not believe it is predestined. Doesn't matter, though. The big rise of gays hasn't been until the last two decades. Give it 50 or so years more, once legalized. Then, people who are in marriages pretending to be straight will fade away, and thus will begin the decline.

 

[Mercor]

Quote from RCG Trader:

You mean the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Those rights?

Large segments of the population stood actively disenfranchised at the time of the declaration. Did the founders believe what they wrote, or not?

Blacks were not considered people, they were property. Just like unborn babies today. Being property is not good and property has no due process or rights.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Mercor:

Abolitionist came from the Conservative philosophy.
It started in the evangelical churches of the day.

You can only defend Liberals/ democrats by changing the terminology.

Where you find Democrats in charge you find separate (but equal policies). It happened from 1865 to 1965 and is happening today in the urban cities.

It has taking 40 years for the Republicans in the South to flush out the racist Democrats. We have come a long way, long enough to see Blacks moving back to the South and away from the racist Democratic run cities.

Blacks are NOT moving back to Mississippi or Alabama. They are moving to Virginia, and North Carolina. And certain very blue enclaves in a sea of red.

Conservatives have always been the enemy, they will always be the enemy, all over this globe.