The latest Clinton cash intrigue involves a Czech model and a 'distasteful' $500,000 donation

Sorry, Tsing, but you ask a silly question and you get a silly answer. I know it's a standard talking point of the Right that she hasn't accomplished anything, but it is not worthy of a response beyond a link and you know it. I'm not suggesting that Paul didn't accomplish anything; I'm just saying you don't have much to crow about by way of comparison.

Are you going to answer the question about what accomplishments of hers you are most proud of and driving your desire to vote for her? I explained my reason for supporting Paul by way of his voting record and accomplishments.
 
Are you going to answer the question about what accomplishments of hers you are most proud of and driving your desire to vote for her? I explained my reason for supporting Paul by way of his voting record and accomplishments.
You had a much smaller list to consider.

Do you mean as First Lady? As senator? Or as secretary of state? Look, I'm not going to play this game with you. If you're looking for a show-stopper, I don't have one. But she's an intelligent woman who has done well for her country. You have at your disposal the same list(s) as I do, thanks to Google. Judge for yourself. You don't need me.
 
You had a much smaller list to consider.

Do you mean as First Lady? As senator? Or as secretary of state?

Pick.

Or continue to refuse to answer. It's not a game I'm playing. I'd like to know what accomplishments of Hillary's you are proud of that have made you want to vote for her over other candidates. What has Hillary done well for our country?

Telling me to go judge for myself is silly - I'm not voting for her because I'm not impressed with her. You seem to be. What actions of hers have impressed you so much?
 
Pick.

Or continue to refuse to answer. It's not a game I'm playing. I'd like to know what accomplishments of Hillary's you are proud of that have made you want to vote for her over other candidates. What has Hillary done well for our country?

Telling me to go judge for myself is silly - I'm not voting for her because I'm not impressed with her. You seem to be. What actions of hers have impressed you so much?



As I recall, Fredricka lives in Canada, but that shouldn't prevent him from voting under the new democratic voting guidelines. :D
 
As I recall, Fredricka lives in Canada, but that shouldn't prevent him from voting under the new democratic voting guidelines. :D

That's true, I had forgotten that. But change "vote" to "support".
 
Pick.

Or continue to refuse to answer. It's not a game I'm playing. I'd like to know what accomplishments of Hillary's you are proud of that have made you want to vote for her over other candidates. What has Hillary done well for our country?

Telling me to go judge for myself is silly - I'm not voting for her because I'm not impressed with her. You seem to be. What actions of hers have impressed you so much?
Most recently, she handled herself capably as secretary of state during tumultuous times, representing her country very well and restoring the country's reputation after the preceding 8 years. But she has done much more over the long course of her public life:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...lishments-so-quit-saying-she-doesnt-have-any/

Seriously, let's move on. This is a pseudo-gotcha for the Right.
 
Most recently, she handled herself capably as secretary of state during tumultuous times, representing her country very well and restoring the country's reputation after the preceding 8 years. But she has done much more over the long course of her public life:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...lishments-so-quit-saying-she-doesnt-have-any/

Seriously, let's move on. This is a pseudo-gotcha for the Right.

It's not a pseudo-gotcha. You still haven't named a single accomplishment. You're just talking about credentials, and mentioning positions she's held. Saying "She did a good job as secretary of state" but not saying what she did while in that position is rather lame. That link's entire first paragraph lists credentials not accomplishments. Unless for the purposes of this argument you are including things like "went to college" or "became a lawyer" or "was elected to senate" as "accomplishments". If so, then a whole bunch of people can meet these requirements, including the entire cast of GOP characters you so eagerly derided.

What did she do well at State? Name one agreement - accomplishment...whatever that she worked on that has yielded success or solved a crisis. I'm just asking what she has specifically done that you find so worthy of support for, and you keep dodging and throwing links my way. This is the fifth or sixth time I've posed the question. If you don't want to answer, just say "I don't want to answer".
 
Let me help, since I too was fascinated about what her actual accomplishments might be. From one of the sources :

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Hillary Rodham Clinton
Hillary Rodham Clinton summary: 67th United States Secretary of State, United States Senator, First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas. She is well-known across the globe as an American politician. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Secretary of State for the US from 2009-2013. She served under President Barack Obama. She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention.
Twice, Hillary Clinton has been listed in the list of the100 most influential American lawyers. When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas. During her time as First Lady the Whitewater controversy and the Lewinski scandal were highly publicized in the media. The public's opinion of her increased sizably during the Lewinski scandal and many speculated it was because of the poise with which she carried herself during the time.
Hillary Clinton is regarded as the First Lady that has been most empowered, except Eleanor Roosevelt. She has served two terms as a US Senator and ran for the presidential office. The American general public considers her a liberal. She has worked in favor of universal health care. No other First ladies held a post-graduate degree before Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bill was heard during his campaign to say he was providing, 'two for one price,' in reference to the work that his wife would be doing alongside him. She has been a strong advocate for a revamping of society morally, stating we were suffering from a 'sleeping sickness of the soul.' She and Bill Clinton have one daughter, Chelsea.
 
It's not a pseudo-gotcha. You still haven't named a single accomplishment. You're just talking about credentials, and mentioning positions she's held. Saying "She did a good job as secretary of state" but not saying what she did while in that position is rather lame. That link's entire first paragraph lists credentials not accomplishments. Unless for the purposes of this argument you are including things like "went to college" or "became a lawyer" or "was elected to senate" as "accomplishments". If so, then a whole bunch of people can meet these requirements, including the entire cast of GOP characters you so eagerly derided.

What did she do well at State? Name one agreement - accomplishment...whatever that she worked on that has yielded success or solved a crisis. I'm just asking what she has specifically done that you find so worthy of support for, and you keep dodging and throwing links my way. This is the fifth or sixth time I've posed the question. If you don't want to answer, just say "I don't want to answer".
...the man is doing what he can within the frame of government he is operating in. He is trying to pass bills and arguing legislation as a Senator should. It shows what side of the fence he stands on. Let's not forget his latest successful maneuver to expire the Patriot Act. That's a pretty big win, in my opinion...
So then, all you have is his temporarily blocking the chamber's push to renew parts of the Patriot Act? That's the sum and substance of it? Okay.
 
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So basically she was married to a sleazebag governor of a small state known for corruption who somehow became president and brought the slime from Little Rock to Washington, DC.

She was a "top lawyer" because she was the governor's wife, representing clients before the state. Her firm was exposed as corrupt and the head partner, Webb Hubbel, at one point AG of the United States, went to jail. One of her other law partners was a top WH official but was found shot to death in a remote Virginia park close to DC. Authorities called it a suicide but many thought that was ludicrous given the circumstances.

Her main accomplishments as First Lady were orchestrating a massive coverup of corruption from Arkansas, attacking women who had been sexually molested or worse by her husband and mounting a scorched earth defense against a Special Prosecutor investigating her and her husband and later impeachment proceedings.

Somehow all this translated into liberals feeling she was owed something important on her own, so she was basically given the NY Senate seat.

She was considered a shoo-in to be the presidential candidate in 2008 but was such a poor performer an obviously unqualifed former community organizer routed her for the nomination. She was given Secretary of State as a consolation prize and to keep the Clinton attack machine in the garage. As Secretary of State, her most notable achievements were undermining a US ally of 30 years in Egypt and putting the muslim brotherhood terrorist organization into power; undermining the Libyan government, leading to the Benghazi massacre and the rise of ISIS; and fomenting the Ukrainian coup that led to Russia seizing Crimea and invading Ukraine. Her biggest legacy as Secretary is no doubt the revelation that she used a private, unsecured email server for government business in obvious violation of common sense if not laws and policies.

Her best known character traits are dishonesty, cheapness and obsessive secrecy. She was forced to return hundreds of thousands of dollars of furniture she looted from the WH after Bill's term mercifully ended. Those last days in the WH were marked by such achievemnents as selling a pardon to notorious fugitive Marc Rich.
 
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