The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

[misterkel]

there you have it folks, they already conditioning you for booster shots,WALL STREET JOURNAL,must be fake news

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Do you want to know which article is this screenshot from? I would never guess, Pfizer profit forecast

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-raises-full-year-outlook-on-vaccine-sales-11627472453

Uh, I don't know, what, but... am I allowed to believe this yet, or is it still a conspiracy theory like lab leak and vax passports were a year ago?
I guess I should post it to Facebook or Twitter and see what the permissible thoughts are so I don't violate my allowed Overton window.

 

[Van_der_Voort_4]

Uh, I don't know, what, but... am I allowed to believe this yet, or is it still a conspiracy theory like lab leak and vax passports were a year ago?
I guess I should post it to Facebook or Twitter and see what the permissible thoughts are so I don't violate my allowed Overton window.

If it is really important study like the one above study from Emory University i do post in binary code,never a problem
i want those i know personally to read them

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[Van_der_Voort_4]

Corey Lynn's series on vaccine passports:

https://www.coreysdigs.com/global/t...ine-id-passports-and-where-its-headed-part-1/

https://www.coreysdigs.com/technolo...-the-blockchain-for-full-control-over-humans/

https://www.coreysdigs.com/technolo...of-your-digital-identity-onto-the-blockchain/

 

[WeToddDid2]

Once again there is T-cell response which reduced severity -- there is no permanent T-cell immunity. Antibody immunity is required to stop you from being re-infected.

You really should learn to educate yourself from reliable sources instead of conspiracy postings in social media.

If your "natural herd immunity" works so well -- explain to us why COVID did not end in Florida did not end after their first huge wave last summer.

Since you obviously don't know the answer -- let me help. New waves will occur in Florida since:
1) Being naturally infected only provides anti-body immunity for a limited period of time.
2) Natural anti-body immunity provides even less protection against new variants.
3) The population is less than fully vaccinated -- leaving plenty of available fuel for the COVID fire.
4) In an unvaccinated scenario -- unvaccinated waves end when a good number people change their behavior by social distancing, wearing mask, and reducing attendance of public gatherings. Of course when people revert their behavior back then a new outbreak is inevitable in a not fully vaccinated population,

Why is that demonstrably false where they have arguably the best covid data in the world and one of the highest vaccination rates?

Israel's Ministry of Health data:

 

[jem]

you are lying your ass off.

1. Distancing is part of what creates Natural herd immunity... dope.
Over time the low hanging fruit disappears or is protected and hidden (distancing)
The healthy may distance too... throughout history the rich would leave cities and go to country homes.


2. We don't know how long antibodies last in some people.
Generally the healthier your immune system the more quickly your antibodies fade...
there are studies showing that with respect to covid
antibodies are inflamation markers. There is a correlation... the stronger the antibodies the more sick you were.

The healthy do not or may not need antibodies to be protected.


3. Your focus on antibodies... is part of your deception.
T cell immunity/ protection can last for decades against some viruses.

Once again there is T-cell response which reduced severity -- there is no permanent T-cell immunity. Antibody immunity is required to stop you from being re-infected.

You really should learn to educate yourself from reliable sources instead of conspiracy postings in social media.

If your "natural herd immunity" works so well -- explain to us why COVID did not end in Florida did not end after their first huge wave last summer.

Since you obviously don't know the answer -- let me help. New waves will occur in Florida since:
1) Being naturally infected only provides anti-body immunity for a limited period of time.
2) Natural anti-body immunity provides even less protection against new variants.
3) The population is less than fully vaccinated -- leaving plenty of available fuel for the COVID fire.
4) In an unvaccinated scenario -- unvaccinated waves end when a good number people change their behavior by social distancing, wearing mask, and reducing attendance of public gatherings. Of course when people revert their behavior back then a new outbreak is inevitable in a not fully vaccinated population,

 

[gwb-trading]

you are lying your ass off.

1. Distancing is part of what creates Natural herd immunity... dope.
Over time the low hanging fruit disappears or is protected and hidden (distancing)
The healthy may distance too... throughout history the rich would leave cities and go to country homes.


2. We don't know how long antibodies last in some people.
Generally the healthier your immune system the more quickly your antibodies fade...
there are studies showing that with respect to covid
antibodies are inflamation markers. There is a correlation... the stronger the antibodies the more sick you were.

The healthy do not or may not need antibodies to be protected.


3. Your focus on antibodies... is part of your deception.
T cell immunity/ protection can last for decades against some viruses.

 

[gwb-trading]

Why is that demonstrably false where they have arguably the best covid data in the world and one of the highest vaccination rates?

Israel's Ministry of Health data:

Yes.. and what is the point you are trying to make? First let's note that the unvaccinated in Israel are basically locked up in their homes and not allowed out into any public setting under the green-pass system.

Yes, break-through cases will still occur in highly vaccinated countries. We know that. As the Israeli health ministry pointed out -- Imagine how high the severely ill numbers would be without vaccination seeing that western countries like the U.S. with lower vaccination rates over 99% of the hospitalized are unvaccinated. You don't see the hospitals in Israel being overrun like they are in the U.S.

 

[misterkel]

Interesting vid here. It's about 45 seconds long. The money shot is the last 5 seconds. Official government health services employee making infection statement.
https://wsau.com/2021/07/26/sydney-...ns-involve-vaccinated-individuals-except-one/

 

[Stopthattrain]

I want to thank smallfil for posting this on another thread. This is one more link in the chain of evidence that the fear and doom crowd is pushing a false narrative as hard as the can.

Everyday we see a new fear headline about Sweden failing and almost everyday they reveal nothing new. And yet almost everyday the deaths in Sweden go down. I predict new cases will go up in Sweden but few if any articles will explain their increase in testing.

Also compliments to the people who were explaining that when you have that many people a carrier a few of them may be feeling sick again. It does mean they have reacquired Covid. Yet the doomers were using this as part of that narrative.

Logic is not the doomer's forte.


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More BS on the USS Theodore Roosevelt so called re-infections. Those so called Corona Virus cells are dead cells. Now, it is the navy saying it now and those test kits they are using giving positive readings only because it is designed to see if there are Corona Virus cells in your body. Doesn't matter if they are dead or alive. So, extreme liberal media promoting the re-infection angle to promote the continued shutdowns? Yet, there are no re-infections at all?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/recovere...ons-about-coronavirus-immunity-170104312.html

I want to thank Smalfil(myself)… Lol……Do a search for the word,” Corroborated”.

 

[gwb-trading]

Interesting vid here. It's about 45 seconds long. The money shot is the last 5 seconds. Official government health services employee making infection statement.
https://wsau.com/2021/07/26/sydney-...ns-involve-vaccinated-individuals-except-one/

You do realize that this nonsense is completely false. The Australian health authorities have already stated it is completely false.

Australia’s Delta Outbreak Shows Vaccines Protect Against Hospitalization
Figures are in line with evidence from other countries, including the U.K. and Israel
https://www.wsj.com/articles/austra...s-protect-against-hospitalization-11625904029

Here is a reminder about the truth about how things are going for the vaccinated in the U.S.

About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/heal...breakthrough-hospitalization-death/index.html

More than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data highlights what leading health experts across the country have highlighted for months: Covid-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing serious illness and death from Covid-19 and are the country's best shot at slowing the pandemic down and avoiding further suffering.

(More at above url)