The Great Global Warming Swindle

jem · Feb 12, 2013

What exactly is your top chart showing other than temperatature leads CO2 accumulation and dissipation.

If you chart were extended forward you would see that CO2 starts to dissipate because temps are lower.

That is what happened after the all natural Holocene period.

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Your second charts shows the same thing.

We do not need to surmise anything. We see temps leading CO2 throughout all of history. It would be up to you to show that this time it is different.

During all of earths history CO2 is lagging temperature.
If you wish to make a theory... call it such.

Quote from futurecurrents:

I guess you missed this then......proof that CO2 can lead temps.

Figure 2: Average global temperature (blue), Antarctic temperature (red), and atmospheric CO2 concentration (yellow dots).

And I guess you missed seeing this chart here. It seems like anyone with a shred of intelligence can surmise that the increase in CO2 from man's activities has lead to an increase in temps. Particularly since we know CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we have seen it lead temps in the past. I don't what your definition of "a shred of science" is, but these things taken together seem to be pretty compelling evidence that man-made CO2 is causing the warming.

futurecurrents · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from gwb-trading:

I published links regarding Al Gore's hedge funds in the other thread.

The video at the start of this thread outlines the spending by global warming promoters.

You already admitted that you do not read links or watch the videos posted by anyone. Why would anyone considering posting links a second, third, or fourth time when you do not even look at or consider the information.

You appear to be stuck on being an unthinking idolatrized attack pundit chanting the 'climate change' mantra

The video? Really? You're still standing by this POS totally debunked fraud of a video? LOL. And you wonder why I call you guys denier morons.

I want to see where it says 50 billion dollars go for research into specifically AGW. You're full of shit.

futurecurrents · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from gwb-trading:

Not a single place in the chart you posted is there a 97% figure.

You can not even post information that supports your chanting the 97% mantra of the global warming alarmists.

What are you blind AND stupid? You don't see the 97 AND 98% figures?

futurecurrents · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from jem:

What exactly is your top chart showing other than temperatature leads CO2 accumulation and dissipation.

If you chart were extended forward you would see that CO2 starts to dissipate because temps are lower.

That is what happened after the all natural Holocene period.

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Your second charts shows the same thing.

We do not need to surmise anything. We see temps leading CO2 throughout all of history. It would be up to you to show that this time it is different.

During all of earths history CO2 is lagging temperature.
If you wish to make a theory... call it such.

So you don't see how the yellow dots (CO2) lead the blue line(temps) ?

I think I see the problem with you denier morons. You simply can't read and understand charts. Holy shit it's like talking to my dog about this. Except he understands more.

jem · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from futurecurrents:

So you don't see how the yellow dots (CO2) lead the blue line(temps) ?

I think I see the problem with you denier morons. You simply can't read and understand charts. Holy shit it's like talking to my dog about this. Except he understands more.

you see the red line leading the yellow dots...
could it be more clear?

on the chart the antartica warmed up first - probably because of solar activity or the earth's proximity to the sun.

antartica warmed - then rest of the earth warmed.
co2 got released after the warming started.

Shakun (the author of the study) grants the warming in antartica led the CO2... argues that the CO2 caused the rest of the earth to warm...

but just as arguably and perhaps more likely the warming of the currents changed due to the warming in antartica...releasing CO2 as a by product yes... but the currents and other warming drivers which you just recently learned about did the trick. Not the CO2.

Either way... antartica warming led CO2.

pspr · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from jem:

you see the red line leading the yellow dots...
could it be more clear?

LOL I think I discovered futurecurrent's problem. He is color blind! He can't see the red line leading CO2.

I wonder if FC can see that his chart shows NO CO2 increase in the last 11 thousand years.

Ricter · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from jem:

Either way... antartica warming led CO2.

You never have figured out it's a feedback loop, have you?

gwb-trading · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from futurecurrents:

What are you blind AND stupid? You don't see the 97 AND 98% figures?

98% is not 97%. Please point to where 97% is on the chart.

You keep mindlessly chanting 97% in every other post..... you can't even come up with a chart to support it.

pspr · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from Ricter:

You never have figured out it's a feedback loop, have you?

I see you are still under the influence of your drugs. You know, they don't call it 'DOPE' for nothing.

PHOENIX TRADING · Feb 12, 2013

Quote from pspr:

LOL I think I discovered futurecurrent's problem. He is color blind! He can't see the red line leading CO2.

I wonder if FC can see that his chart shows NO CO2 increase in the last 11 thousand years.

lemme guess fc is a chartist?