The Great Global Warming Swindle
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do you realize what a dick you are being.
You just saw charts where you have learned the the IPCC and the UN have to adjust their models because they were wrong.
you just learned the IPCC and the UN are now explaining that solar forcings and oceans have far greater influcence on temperature.
we even quoted scientists who were caught in the email scandal explaining this...
and you are still being a man made CO2 drone.
Your team has left the stadium and has joined those of us who are saying natural causes may be a very large influece.
You are off your rocker?
Read what your team is saying.
do you need links to the UN paper?
do you realize what a dick you are being.
You just saw charts where you have learned the the IPCC and the UN have to adjust their models because they were wrong.
you just learned the IPCC and the UN are now explaining that solar forcings and oceans have far greater influcence on temperature.
we even quoted scientists who were caught in the email scandal explaining this...
and you are still being a man made CO2 drone.
Your team has left the stadium and has joined those of us who are saying natural causes may be a very large influece.
You are off your rocker?
Read what your team is saying.
do you need links to the UN paper?
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Is the flood on there?
I love the history lesson and the way the chart tells you what to think!
Looks like something the Jehova's Witnesses would pass out in their pamphlets! LOL
Oh, and the statement on it that for a TWO YEARS, THERE WAS MAJOR GLOBAL COOLING !! the temps were going down! Oh my! That's even shorter than 16. LOL.
I don't know what's more of a joke. The chart or the person that posted it.
This is true.
blah blah blah you just said a bunch of nothing as usual. I don't even know what you're babbling about and neither do you. Look at the NOAA charts troll.
I want to see another one of your ridiculous charts. They are amusing. Though I doubt you would find a better one than your last. Please? Maybe with Noah in it this time?
They can't even understand the chart itself, forget about the statistics.
They don't know an uptrend from downtrend or anything about scaling charts to suit the time-span of interest. You wonder how they trade. I guess they don't use charts.
So I looked up your posts right before the elections and here's what I found.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3671739#post3671739
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3670695#post3670695
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3670690#post3670690
I think you should just give up on all kinds of analysis out of embarrassment, frankly it's just embarrassing for me to dig up how wrong you are..consistently. Not just you, the rest of your clown brigade who continue posting from the same sources that fooled you for months.
Fc I hate hot weather more than anybody I've ever known.
cold just doesn't faze me, If it gets cold enough inside to bother me the pipes have a tendency to freeze.
I remember in my college days up in the mountains of GA keeping things in the refrigerator to keep them warm.
All that said If there was ever anybody that didn't want ambient temperatures to rise it's me.
Yet I know this AGW is BS.
I suspect you idiots have taken a seed of truth the size of a sunflower seed and turned it into a forest of redwoods.
So if the dominant greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is raised 35% in one hundred and fifty years what would you expect to happen? It's that simple. Do you dispute these facts? Are you one of the crazies who thinks science can't be trusted? That the data that NOAA and virtually every climate scientist in the world publishes is wrong?
You are once again confusing cause and effect. Long term studies have demonstrated that a rise in CO2 lags (not leads) a rise in global temperature by 800 years.
The current CO2 level and global temperature levels are well within the standard deviation of the mean over the long term on earth.
Get A Clue, futurecurrents!
Water Vapor vs CO2 as a âGreenhouseâ Gas
February 24, 2011
If you read many articles and comments in the blogosphere you would think that âskepticsâ have discovered something hidden. Or highlighted an important truth that climate science is trying to hide.
Water vapor is actually the dominant âgreenhouseâ gas
This is true.
If only climate science actually realized it and stopped pretending that CO2 was the most important âgreenhouseâ gas..
If Only They Wrote it Larger..
"For terrestrial radiation, water vapor is the most important single constituent of the lower atmosphere, although carbon dioxide is always significant.."
- Atmospheric Radiation: Theoretical Basis, Goody & Yung, Oxford University Press (1989, 2nd edition)
"Water vapor is the most important atmospheric greenhouse gas.. Carbon dioxide is the second most important greenhouse gas.."
- Radiation and Climate, Vardavas & Taylor, Oxford University Press (2007)
"Generally speaking, water vapor is the single most important atmospheric absorber in the IR band.."
"No other atmospheric constituent is better known to the general public as a âgreenhouse gasâ than CO2. In actuality, water vapor has a larger overall impact on the radiative energy budget of the atmosphere.."
- A First Course in Atmospheric Radiation, Grant Petty, Sundog Publishing (2006)
"Water vapor is the most important gas for the transfer of radiation in the atmosphere.."
- Global Physical Climatology, Hartmann, Academic Press (1994)
"Table 6 shows the relative contributions of H2O, CO2 and O3 to reducing the outgoing longwave flux, from which it is seen that the longwave effect of H2O is significantly larger than the effects of CO2 and O3.."
- Climate Modeling through Radiative-Convective Models, Ramanathan & Coakley, Reviews of Geophysics and Space Physics (1978)
"The importance of water vapor in regulating climate is undisputed. It is the dominant greenhouse gas, trapping more of Earthâs heat than any other gaseous constituent.."
- The Radiative Signature of Upper Tropospheric Moistening, Soden, Jackson, Ramaswamy, Schwarzkopf & Huang, Science (2005)
"The dominant role of water vapor as a greenhouse gas has long been noted.."
- The Importance and Nature of the Water Vapor Budget in Nature and Models, Lindzen, Climate Sensitivity to Radiative Perturbations: Physical Mechanisms and Their Validation (1996)
"The authors find that for the clear sky case the contribution due to water vapor to the total longwave radiative forcing is 75 W/m², while for carbon dioxide it is 32 W/m².."
- Earthâs Annual Global MeanEnergy Budget, Kiehl & Trenberth, Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (1997)
"Water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas, the most important gaseous source of infrared opacity in the atmosphere.."
- Water Vapor Feedback and Global Warming, Held & Soden, Annual Review Energy Environment (2000)
"In fact, itâs so well-known that most times in papers it isnât repeated. No one involved in atmospheric physics is confused about the subject."
"Why the focus on CO2 in that case?"
"Water vapor arguably lies at the heart of all key terrestrial atmospheric processes. Humidity is essential for the development of disturbed weather, influences (directly and indirectly through cloud formation) the planetary radiative balance, and influences surface fluxes and soil moisture. Water vapor is the only radiatively important atmospheric constituent that is sufficiently short‐lived and abundant in the atmosphere so as to be essentially under purely natural control.."
- Tropospheric Water Vapor, Convection & Climate, Sherwood, Roca, Weckwerth & Andronova, Review of Geophysics (2010)
http://scienceofdoom.com/2011/02/24/water-vapor-vs-co2-as-a-greenhouse-gas/
Water Vapor vs CO2 as a âGreenhouseâ Gas
February 24, 2011
If you read many articles and comments in the blogosphere you would think that âskepticsâ have discovered something hidden. Or highlighted an important truth that climate science is trying to hide.
Water vapor is actually the dominant âgreenhouseâ gas
This is true.
If only climate science actually realized it and stopped pretending that CO2 was the most important âgreenhouseâ gas..
If Only They Wrote it Larger..
"For terrestrial radiation, water vapor is the most important single constituent of the lower atmosphere, although carbon dioxide is always significant.."
- Atmospheric Radiation: Theoretical Basis, Goody & Yung, Oxford University Press (1989, 2nd edition)
"Water vapor is the most important atmospheric greenhouse gas.. Carbon dioxide is the second most important greenhouse gas.."
- Radiation and Climate, Vardavas & Taylor, Oxford University Press (2007)
"Generally speaking, water vapor is the single most important atmospheric absorber in the IR band.."
"No other atmospheric constituent is better known to the general public as a âgreenhouse gasâ than CO2. In actuality, water vapor has a larger overall impact on the radiative energy budget of the atmosphere.."
- A First Course in Atmospheric Radiation, Grant Petty, Sundog Publishing (2006)
"Water vapor is the most important gas for the transfer of radiation in the atmosphere.."
- Global Physical Climatology, Hartmann, Academic Press (1994)
"Table 6 shows the relative contributions of H2O, CO2 and O3 to reducing the outgoing longwave flux, from which it is seen that the longwave effect of H2O is significantly larger than the effects of CO2 and O3.."
- Climate Modeling through Radiative-Convective Models, Ramanathan & Coakley, Reviews of Geophysics and Space Physics (1978)
"The importance of water vapor in regulating climate is undisputed. It is the dominant greenhouse gas, trapping more of Earthâs heat than any other gaseous constituent.."
- The Radiative Signature of Upper Tropospheric Moistening, Soden, Jackson, Ramaswamy, Schwarzkopf & Huang, Science (2005)
"The dominant role of water vapor as a greenhouse gas has long been noted.."
- The Importance and Nature of the Water Vapor Budget in Nature and Models, Lindzen, Climate Sensitivity to Radiative Perturbations: Physical Mechanisms and Their Validation (1996)
"The authors find that for the clear sky case the contribution due to water vapor to the total longwave radiative forcing is 75 W/m², while for carbon dioxide it is 32 W/m².."
- Earthâs Annual Global MeanEnergy Budget, Kiehl & Trenberth, Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (1997)
"Water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas, the most important gaseous source of infrared opacity in the atmosphere.."
- Water Vapor Feedback and Global Warming, Held & Soden, Annual Review Energy Environment (2000)
"In fact, itâs so well-known that most times in papers it isnât repeated. No one involved in atmospheric physics is confused about the subject."
"Why the focus on CO2 in that case?"
"Water vapor arguably lies at the heart of all key terrestrial atmospheric processes. Humidity is essential for the development of disturbed weather, influences (directly and indirectly through cloud formation) the planetary radiative balance, and influences surface fluxes and soil moisture. Water vapor is the only radiatively important atmospheric constituent that is sufficiently short‐lived and abundant in the atmosphere so as to be essentially under purely natural control.."
- Tropospheric Water Vapor, Convection & Climate, Sherwood, Roca, Weckwerth & Andronova, Review of Geophysics (2010)
http://scienceofdoom.com/2011/02/24/water-vapor-vs-co2-as-a-greenhouse-gas/