The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart

Quote from trefoil:

You are ignoring the causation part. You still haven't come up with an alternate explanation for why the CO2 forcing formula so closely predicted what the temp anomalies would be in 2003-2008.

Have you ever heard the saying "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while"? The same logic applies here.

Please apply your formula to this range of data and tell me how well it works out.

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Dave you contradict yourself so often its hilarious. Can you seriously not remember what you wrote an hour ago? This is the best example I've seen yet:

Quote from bigdavediode:

Kill? I don't know, but endanger millions of people, yes.
Quote from bigdavediode:
Huh? Your own statements were that, no worries, the temperature will drop after it hits +2 degrees, which would likely be catastrophic.

Undoubtedly the temperatures will drop eventually (after all humans are dead and vegetation takes over again.)

Quote from bigdavediode:
Look, this is the same paper that I've already addressed -- his point (2) for example doesn't even address that the CO2 has been proven to have come from man -- he still thinks it's naturally generated.
Once again you jump to a totally different subject and dodge the question. I want to know how the IPCC climate models address the negative feedback system the Arctic Ocean causes. Please try to address the subject and post references.


Quote from bigdavediode:
I'm sure there is, but studying the arctic alone does not prove or disprove global climate.
If you say so. Any references? Isn't the whole concern is all the ice is going to melt in the Arctic, half the world will be flooded and the polar bears won't have anywhere to live?

Think about it, if the temperature rises in the Arctic thats what causes the ice to melt.
 
Quote from trefoil:

You might want to google before you put your foot firmly in your mouth? Thats a global average, first of all. For the rest, do a little research. Don't post on a subject when you're so utterly ignorant about it.
Honestly, the stuff that gets posted on here is an embarrassment. Where do posters like this even come from? [/B]


great, I googled, even though the answer was already screamingly obvious to any other than a 5 year old. IT is amazing how uninformed you are

WITH ATMOSPHERE
"In the year 1999, the average global temperature was approximately 14.4 degrees Celsius (57.9 degrees Fahrenheit)."

WITHOUT ATMOSPHERE
You are in space. Without air, once you are even a tiny bit above a heated surface, space drops near absolute zero - or about 2.7 Kelvin. "This is because of the 3 degree microwave background radiation." Jonathan Keohane - Astrophysicist

So, temperature difference is: 14.4 degrees Celsius minus approximately (negative) -270 degrees Celsius or about 285 degree Celsius difference.

Long long long way from your 33 degrees.

After all your snorting, the only clueless one, is yourself...
 
Quote from Haroki:

IOW, after Dave said that meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, etc could explain the decrease in temps, he doesn't have the concrete evidence to show that this is the case.

Dodge noted.

Where did he specifically say that volcanic eruptions and such explain a "decrease in temps"?

He said nothing like that on page 90.
 
Quote from Matt8200:

Have you ever heard the saying "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while"? The same logic applies here.

Please apply your formula to this range of data and tell me how well it works out.

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Answer the simple question of how the forcing formula was so accurate. It's a very simple question.
Stop dodging. We've all seen those models. They explain precisely nothing about present-day warming, given that there was no agriculture or industry in those models, but there is now.
Your bit about water vapor was a dodge and an obfuscation.
That graph is a dodge and an obfuscation.
The formula is precise, simple, and replicable. It's based on data that's precise, simple, and replicable in the sense that it's out there in the public domain and accessible by anyone, including you.
Answer the question.
 
Quote from Haroki:

IOW, after Dave said that meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, etc could explain the decrease in temps, he doesn't have the concrete evidence to show that this is the case.

Dodge noted.

It's true. I cannot explain every decrease in temperature for the last 400,000 years.
 
Quote from Haroki:

LMAO.

Ice core data is used by the IPCC for determining CO2 levels from long ago.

And now, Dave questions its validity.

Actually, I didn't. Ice cores are perfectly valid.

Why? Because they don't just come from the antarctic, and the ones from Greenland, for example, have confirmed other ice cores and have allowed scientists to produce global averages.

Ice cores that only come from the antarctic, though, are regional data only.
 
Quote from trefoil:

Given a six year lag, we will calculate the expected temperature anomaly for 2003-2008, given the above, as both an average and a median, and the formula for figuring this out for CO2, which is 5.35 * ln(ending CO2/starting CO2) *.8

Answer the simple question of how the forcing formula was so accurate. It's a very simple question.
Stop dodging. We've all seen those models. They explain precisely nothing about present-day warming, given that there was no agriculture or industry in those models, but there is now.
Your bit about water vapor was a dodge and an obfuscation.
That graph is a dodge and an obfuscation.
The formula is precise, simple, and replicable. It's based on data that's precise, simple, and replicable in the sense that it's out there in the public domain and accessible by anyone, including you.
Answer the question.

I have no idea where you came up with this formula or what it is suppose to mean. You need to explain it better and tell how it was derived.

What models are you referring to and I have not dodged or obfuscated anything, that would be you and Dave. I have asked many questions which require answers to be able to prove the predictions climate change. These questions are still left unanswered.
 
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