The future of the United States includes...

[MRBRETTONWOODS]

Let's breakdown Microsoft's business:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar08/10k_dl_dow.html

Total revenue:
Revenue $60,420
Operating income $22,492

Client:
Windows Revenue $16,865
Operating income $13,052

Server and Tools:
sql server, Windows Server, Visual Studio
Revenue $13,170
Operating income $4,593

Online Services Business (msn, live, bing, adcenter, aquantive)
Revenue $3,214
Operating income (loss)$(1,233)

Microsoft Business Division (90% office, 10% crm, enterprise management software)
Revenue $18,932
Operating income $12,358


Entertainment and Devices Division (video games, zune, ip software, mobile/embedded devices)

Revenue $8,140
Operating income $426


Corporate-level activity $ (6,704)

Certain corporate-level activity, including expenses related to corporate operations associated with broad-based sales and marketing, product support services, human resources, legal, finance, information technology, corporate development and procurement activities, research and development and other costs, and legal settlements and contingencies, is not allocated to our segments.






Where in hell is the innovation? The IEEE does not mention any specific unique MSFT "innovation".
None of the profitable/high revenue products were initially developed or innovated by Microsoft.

Name one successful product here that was a unique program "innovated" by Microsoft, just one.

You show a patent list of 10,000, yet you cannot even name 1 innovation of your 10,000, that is truly pathetic.

 

[Copernicus]

Quote from Trader666:

You're an ignorant, jaded, jealous, delusional fool. The rest of your garbage is just as stupid.

Survey: Microsoft has strongest patent portfolio

January 5, 2009, 05:30 PM — IDG News Service — U.S. technology companies led an annual survey rating the strength of corporate patent portfolios, with Microsoft coming out on top.

According to the IEEE Spectrum patent scorecard, the so-called "pipeline power" of Microsoft's patent portfolio was the highest among all companies, with Intel coming in second and IBM third. The IEEE Spectrum is a magazine put out by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, a technology trade organization.

http://www.itworld.com/legal/60115/survey-microsoft-has-strongest-patent-portfolio

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Microsoft certainly kicking ass, but how many of those patents come from foreign born techs? and how many of them will we have here in 4 yrs if things keep going as they are going now. it think thats more relevant to the future of the US

 

[Trader666]

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

Only a total fool would claim that such a dominant tech company with over 10,000 patents hasn't innovated anything.

And now you're saying they have no successful products? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Are you posting from an insane asylum?

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

Quote from MRBRETTONWOODS:

LMAO, where is the one successful original innovation out of all of those patents?

Where?

You are boldly claiming such to exist, yet is it seen in Microsoft's revenue or profits? NO

Where is it? Where is the one successful product? It doesn't exist. It exists in your imagination only.

 

[Trader666]

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

Your post was not long enough, type more next time.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

Quote from MRBRETTONWOODS:

Let's breakdown Microsoft's business:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar08/10k_dl_dow.html

Total revenue:
Revenue $60,420
Operating income $22,492

Client:
Windows Revenue $16,865
Operating income $13,052

Server and Tools:
sql server, Windows Server, Visual Studio
Revenue $13,170
Operating income $4,593

Online Services Business (msn, live, bing, adcenter, aquantive)
Revenue $3,214
Operating income (loss)$(1,233)

Microsoft Business Division (90% office, 10% crm, enterprise management software)
Revenue $18,932
Operating income $12,358


Entertainment and Devices Division (video games, zune, ip software, mobile/embedded devices)

Revenue $8,140
Operating income $426


Corporate-level activity $ (6,704)

Certain corporate-level activity, including expenses related to corporate operations associated with broad-based sales and marketing, product support services, human resources, legal, finance, information technology, corporate development and procurement activities, research and development and other costs, and legal settlements and contingencies, is not allocated to our segments.






Where in hell is the innovation? The IEEE does not mention any specific unique MSFT "innovation".
None of the profitable/high revenue products were initially developed or innovated by Microsoft.

Name one successful product here that was a unique program "innovated" by Microsoft, just one.

You show a patent list of 10,000, yet you cannot even name 1 innovation of your 10,000, that is truly pathetic.

 

[MRBRETTONWOODS]

Quote from Trader666:

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

Your post was not long enough, type more next time.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

To the pompous BS artist:

Show me the one magic product.........

Where is it? enough said.

 

[MRBRETTONWOODS]

Quote from Trader666:

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

Only a total fool would claim that such a dominant tech company with over 10,000 patents hasn't innovated anything.

And now you're saying they have no successful products? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Are you posting from an insane asylum?

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

To the pompous BS artist:

Where is the one magic internally innovated product at MS?

MS has never created any revolutionary product, it has only copied others.

Your clearly lack an understanding of the english language.








>LOL are you kidding? Microsoft.

What the hell has Microsoft ever innovated outside of a monopoly.

The pompous BS artist needs a history lesson.

Bill gates did not develop anything for MS.

Microsoft's original OS DOS was 86-DOS created by Seattle Computer Products. Microsoft bought out the rights to the OS, that is some real "innovation".

Microsoft then created a gui for the system, Let's discuss the gui, the first was featured on the Xerox Alto OS. Xerox then introduced the Star, which then was copied and fitted by both Apple and then MS.

Microsoft become wealthy through its licensing strategy and its right to sell pc, to companies other than IBM, that was fatal mistake for IBM. MS then created tons of code built on top of the original DOS, so that programs would continue to function with each new version of Windows. Microsoft copies other people's software and incorporates to Windows. MS still uses the same NTFS file system.

Microsoft then created an office suite, which had features copied from Lotus 1-2-3 and Word Perfect office software and then offered bundled discounts to oems for essentially the same software MS office.
Microsoft's browser IE was based on Mosaic, their founders then founded Netscape. Microsoft copied features from the browser and only supported at a minimum what Netscape supported to stay relevant and bundled it with the OS, while giving discounts to oems. Microsoft did not add any new features to IE essentially until Mozilla Firefox become a considerable in the browser market a couple years ago. Directx was a modified copy originally of Opengl.

All that Microsoft has built up from DOS-windows-explorer is built into vista and now 7

.NET is copying java, visual studio copied the developer IDE from those previously created at Borland and sqlserver is just an RDBMS like oracle, DB2 etc

Xbox (a pet project) is simply another game console, zune another mp3 player, WinMo, MSN (default IE homepage) etc and all are second or third rate competitors

Not to mention webtv, zune, SPoT, Encarta, msn search, Live Search, PlaysForSure and many others which have all failed.

All MS can do is suck the public dry with their monopoly and anti-competitive oem practices, and blow some of their excess profits on Ad campaigns that are irrelevant anyway.

All of Microsoft's innovation was previously created by other corporations, Microsoft just took the same principles and features present in that other software/embedded devices/hardware and rebranded it and filed patents and copyrights. The windows tcp/ip comes from BSD, Microsoft then implemented and patented their own version.
Software patents exist because lawyers figured out a way around the rules, by describing the computing device within the patent, Microsoft creates new lines of code to add on to previously made products like Windows, Office and IE for example, while only on occasion make significant improvements.
Those MS patents are for services and products related to MS' crown jewel monopoly (new lines of code and a plethora of other products that have failed or are essentially theoretical proprietary implementation's from other companies that have actually innovated.

 

[Trader666]

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

You still don't get it, do you? You said Microsoft hasn't innovated anything, to which I responded with the IEEE patents scorecard and the fact that MSFT has over 10K patents. Which TOTALLY DESTROYS your argument. Game over, you lose. Yet you persist in your delusion which is probably one of the most bizarre claims ever made on ET. Your jadedness, jealousy and ignorance have made you IRRATIONAL... anyone who would claim there's no innovation behind 10K+ patents is INSANE. You can post all the crap you want but you're like some homeless person who lives in their own excrement and screams nonsense at people as they walk by.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

Quote from MRBRETTONWOODS:

Where is the one magic internally innovated product at MS?

MS has never created any revolutionary product, it has only copied others.

Your clearly lack an understanding of the english language.

>LOL are you kidding? Microsoft.

What the hell has Microsoft ever innovated outside of a monopoly.

The pompous BS artist needs a history lesson.

Bill gates did not develop anything for MS.

Microsoft's original OS DOS was 86-DOS created by Seattle Computer Products. Microsoft bought out the rights to the OS, that is some real "innovation".

Microsoft then created a gui for the system, Let's discuss the gui, the first was featured on the Xerox Alto OS. Xerox then introduced the Star, which then was copied and fitted by both Apple and then MS.

Microsoft become wealthy through its licensing strategy and its right to sell pc, to companies other than IBM, that was fatal mistake for IBM. MS then created tons of code built on top of the original DOS, so that programs would continue to function with each new version of Windows. Microsoft copies other people's software and incorporates to Windows. MS still uses the same NTFS file system.

Microsoft then created an office suite, which had features copied from Lotus 1-2-3 and Word Perfect office software and then offered bundled discounts to oems for essentially the same software MS office.
Microsoft's browser IE was based on Mosaic, their founders then founded Netscape. Microsoft copied features from the browser and only supported at a minimum what Netscape supported to stay relevant and bundled it with the OS, while giving discounts to oems. Microsoft did not add any new features to IE essentially until Mozilla Firefox become a considerable in the browser market a couple years ago. Directx was a modified copy originally of Opengl.

All that Microsoft has built up from DOS-windows-explorer is built into vista and now 7

.NET is copying java, visual studio copied the developer IDE from those previously created at Borland and sqlserver is just an RDBMS like oracle, DB2 etc

Xbox (a pet project) is simply another game console, zune another mp3 player, WinMo, MSN (default IE homepage) etc and all are second or third rate competitors

Not to mention webtv, zune, SPoT, Encarta, msn search, Live Search, PlaysForSure and many others which have all failed.

All MS can do is suck the public dry with their monopoly and anti-competitive oem practices, and blow some of their excess profits on Ad campaigns that are irrelevant anyway.

All of Microsoft's innovation was previously created by other corporations, Microsoft just took the same principles and features present in that other software/embedded devices/hardware and rebranded it and filed patents and copyrights. The windows tcp/ip comes from BSD, Microsoft then implemented and patented their own version.
Software patents exist because lawyers figured out a way around the rules, by describing the computing device within the patent, Microsoft creates new lines of code to add on to previously made products like Windows, Office and IE for example, while only on occasion make significant improvements.
Those MS patents are for services and products related to MS' crown jewel monopoly (new lines of code and a plethora of other products that have failed or are essentially theoretical proprietary implementation's from other companies that have actually innovated.

 

[MRBRETTONWOODS]

Quote from Trader666:

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

You still don't get it, do you? You said Microsoft hasn't innovated anything, to which I responded with the IEEE patents scorecard and the fact that MSFT has over 10K patents. Which TOTALLY DESTROYS your argument. Game over, you lose. Yet you persist in your delusion which is probably one of the most bizarre claims ever made on ET. Your jadedness, jealousy and ignorance have made you IRRATIONAL... anyone who would claim there's no innovation behind 10K+ patents is INSANE. You can post all the crap you want but you're like some homeless person who lives in their own excrement and screams nonsense at people as they walk by.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

To the pompous BS artist:

Do I have to repeat myself?

Show me the one magic product.........

Where is it? enough said.

 

[Trader666]

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

ROTFLMAO!!! Magic? What you said before was that Microsoft hasn't innovated anything. My answer is simply: 10,000+ patents. Only someone who is totally detached from reality (like you) would claim there's no innovation in 10,000+ patents. Get a life loser.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

Quote from MRBRETTONWOODS:

Do I have to repeat myself?

Show me the one magic product.........

Where is it? enough said.

 

[MRBRETTONWOODS]

Quote from Trader666:

To the jaded, jealous, ignorant loser:

ROTFLMAO!!! Magic? What you said before was that Microsoft hasn't innovated anything. My answer is simply: 10,000+ patents. Only someone who is totally detached from reality (like you) would claim there's no innovation in 10,000+ patents. Get a life loser.

I laugh as you desperately type away, frantically spewing venom in your futile mission to justify your petty, pathetic delusions

Do I have to repeat myself?

Show me the one magic product.........

Where is it? enough said.


You can't even name one unique successful innovative product, out of the so-called 10,000. How pitiful.