The Experts, Media and Covid Doomsayers were wrong about Florida

[Tsing Tao]

You are seriously delusional and generally a waste of time. Just don't shoot someone on a whim is all we ask.

You're the only one who continues to mention guns and shooting people. You brought it up entirely. Of the two of us, you're the only one who has tried to dox people whenever they disagree with you. Of the two of us, you're the one who has tried to mute and censor people we disagree with.

You think my support of the second amendment - something a Canadian like you will never understand - means I'm going to shoot someone every time I get annoyed at something that happens in our world.

Go play in traffic.

 

[Bugenhagen]

I do believe you captured Tsing Toad's essence. And that picture is worth a thousand posts.

I hates the mall ninjas.

Watkin 'Ninja" Jones is funny though.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I hates the mall ninjas.

Watkin 'Ninja" Jones is funny though.

The mall ninja reference is on point, but sorry, I can't listen to rap.

 

[Bugenhagen]

The mall ninja reference is on point, but sorry, I can't listen to rap.

Thats South African hip hop that is!

Melodic and catchy to me though I hate actual rap myself. The joys of having a kid at 21 is you stay young as long as they do.

They are the pair from the movie "Chappie".

 

[El OchoCinco]

I still am not sure I buy the warm weather crap because otherwise Panama, Malaysia, Brazil and various other "hot" spots would not have as big an issue. I think in warm weather, flu and things like it have a shorter lifespan on surfaces or in the air versus cold which makes it easier to spread through contact but warm weatehr countries have had corona issues.

Rather than Trump simply saying the warm weather will make it magically disappear like a jackass I would like to hear more science on that claim but anecdotal evidence for the moment leans contrary.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I still am not sure I buy the warm weather crap because otherwise Panama, Malaysia, Brazil and various other "hot" spots would not have as big an issue. I think in warm weather, flu and things like it have a shorter lifespan on surfaces or in the air versus cold which makes it easier to spread through contact but warm weatehr countries have had corona issues.

Rather than Trump simply saying the warm weather will make it magically disappear like a jackass I would like to hear more science on that claim but anecdotal evidence for the moment leans contrary.

I agree. Just my opinion, I don't think it has anything to do with warm weather as much as it does with the virus just not being as bad as everyone thought it would be. I think New York is a specific case based on the nursing home issue and the demographics, along with the travel to and from the rest of the world.

 

[Nine_Ender]

I still am not sure I buy the warm weather crap because otherwise Panama, Malaysia, Brazil and various other "hot" spots would not have as big an issue. I think in warm weather, flu and things like it have a shorter lifespan on surfaces or in the air versus cold which makes it easier to spread through contact but warm weatehr countries have had corona issues.

Rather than Trump simply saying the warm weather will make it magically disappear like a jackass I would like to hear more science on that claim but anecdotal evidence for the moment leans contrary.

Hard to say what will occur when various US states and Quebec open up early I'm ok with them being the guinea pigs and finding out. Normally I'm a risk taker but the numbers don't lie I want to give this virus some space. Most concerning thing I've seen besides the fools at the protests is Quebec's plan to send the kids back to school, and little kids are great at picking up viruses just being themselves. Canada's done ok so far except the long term care homes are a disaster.

 

[Bugenhagen]

I still am not sure I buy the warm weather crap because otherwise Panama, Malaysia, Brazil and various other "hot" spots would not have as big an issue. I think in warm weather, flu and things like it have a shorter lifespan on surfaces or in the air versus cold which makes it easier to spread through contact but warm weatehr countries have had corona issues.

Rather than Trump simply saying the warm weather will make it magically disappear like a jackass I would like to hear more science on that claim but anecdotal evidence for the moment leans contrary.

It's pretty fucking warm in Ecuador and the UV index is off the scale. They had their first cases likely from Spanish cargo ship crew and it was not locked down early.

The all causes death rate is off the charts and this was 17th April from the BBC. I know a guy who lives near Guayaquil port and he confirms all of this.

"According to the government's figures, 14,561 people have died in Guayas province since the beginning of March from all causes. The province normally sees 2,000 deaths a month on average."

Maybe they can't count covid-19 too accurately but they do know how many death certs.

Ecuador is packed with American retirees (uses the USD as currency) who have been flocking back on flights where the only screening had been temperature.

 

[jem]

The netflix special on Corona Virus
presents stats... which the media and the experts have pretty much hid from this whole time in the US...

Although we knew it, if you saw the stats out of Italy early on... as was mentioned here on ET.

Something like 75% of the deaths (or hospitalizations but I think it was deaths) are for those Heart disease, lung disease, or diabetes. And just a massive percent of the deaths are from those in their 80s and 70s. Women also had a low death rate relative to men.


So if Florida manages to keep its death rate down... that will be worth investigating. Although having lived there for 3 years about a decade ago... I know it has been getting younger.

 

[CaptainObvious]

I should point out that I thought you started this thread. Tsing Toad has me on ignore such that I cannot see his posts. So yours is the first I saw in this thread, which is why I didn't know what, specifically, you were talking about. Now that I do, please take heed: Tsing is an idiot, while gwb-trading is on point.

No problemo. To answer your question of what I would have done differently, simply put, I would have used the dimmer switch approach rather than the instant off given the original data was so incomplete. Yes, lives were in the balance, and yes that approach may have cost more lives, but the bigger picture needed to be given much more attention than it was. Knee jerk reaction to just about anything usually ends up as a mistake. We, IMO, went too far, too fast, and trying to unwind that will prove to be very costly, potentially more costly than the virus itself.