The Confiscation Scheme Planned For U.S. And U.K. Depositors

Quote from zdreg:

it would be plain dumb luck if they did not get the same haircut as other financial institution if there is reason to think otherwise someone please post.

Why would they get a haircut when they wouldn't need to be bailed out? Are you trying to say the government will take all savings in all banks regardless of whether or not that bank needs saving?

While anything is possible, I think that's simply not going to happen.
 
Add Canada to the list.

Recent economic blueprint of Conservative Party wants to use (in unlikely scenario of course) certain bank liabilities (i.e. accounts) to fund banks bailouts.

If that is true are they talking about transferring money from savers to shareholders to keep government bond printing intact?

Not bad! Communist revolution is spreading around the world comrades!
 
Quote from deucy28:

hehe.......I will let your opinion stand on whatever merit it has that the wealthier class is more to be looked at as offensive rather than capitalists and job creators. It appears to me over the years, republicans tend to have less use for "politically correct" than their nemesis party, and I've observed use more defining labels on things. Dems appear to code things ..... "revenue" for taxes...."investment' for never-ending hemorrhaging of money (always better to be a sugar daddy for re-election purposes. Can't blame, them....It works !) And recently, I have seen republicans using the same words, so it must be a politician thing. IMHO "the rich" is a dirty label others like to use with disdain; I really heard it in Europe like Satan incarnate. Those were in my younger days when I didn't know if wealthier were actually evil folks there, or were just severely envied upon.

(For the record, I am not a party animal, and I don't think too spectrum left or right. I am an economics animal. I do know what drives jobs creation, and one would have to be blind today to see what has become a wet blanket on it.)
you sound like you are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter. It was much worse back then. Everybody coming on the scene were ex hippies. Nowadays, we also have the yuppies still hanging on, and they liked being rich.

otherwise, propaganda is much more entertaining than policy

"a balanced approach" means in reality "Raise taxes now, and we will cut spending when we run out of money."
 
Quote from oldtime:

you sound like you are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter. It was much worse back then. Everybody coming on the scene were ex hippies. Nowadays, we also have the yuppies still hanging on, and they liked being rich.

otherwise, propaganda is much more entertaining than policy

"a balanced approach" means in reality "Raise taxes now, and we will cut spending when we run out of money."

Indeed ! I enjoyed the laugh at the balanced approach explanation. The personalities under the capital dome are so broken of full, fiduciary faith to the good of the country, the wonderful system in place with its warts, blemishes, and some serious flaws have been corrupted into severe dysfunction at a time more so than ever when it needs to be running on Slick 50. (Whoops. I should not have used the word slick.)

Yup, I was 20- something during Carter, and I can relate. Strangely, I embrace the differences between generations. Makes for a lot of interesting dynamics, and life is not boring. For the republicans in the news its now the young Turks gonna move the old guard aside and sweep the floor of stuck-in-the-mud, non-effective leaders, so the current drift appears to be. For the dem's I can believe there is horrific frustration by the junior set elected with passion in their hearts to make a difference but are faced with "We'll read the bill after it becomes law," leadership mentality and Mt Rushmore size ideology trumping common sense that would otherwise allow constructive dialogue and compromise. Not that dem's have the corner in the market on those characteristics, as I am struck with it from all directions.

If the good fairy were to come along and unwind the dysfunction tomorrow and purge the unwarranted gridlock, our economy, banking, and government could become effective again. Banking is only as good as the economy, and government is only as good as the astuteness of citizens that elect those who run it. Education as poor as ours won't be making any inroads soon in graduates with a functional grasp of history, economics, and motivation to stay informed by important current events that in the end would allow for a better voter and elected quality of leadership driven to affect our future by performing for the nation, not for self aggrandizement and posturing for the next election.
 
Quote from deucy28:

Indeed ! I enjoyed the laugh at the balanced approach explanation. The personalities under the capital dome are so broken of full, fiduciary faith to the good of the country, the wonderful system in place with its warts, blemishes, and some serious flaws have been corrupted into severe dysfunction at a time more so than ever when it needs to be running on Slick 50. (Whoops. I should not have used the word slick.)

Yup, I was 20- something during Carter, and I can relate. Strangely, I embrace the differences between generations. Makes for a lot of interesting dynamics, and life is not boring. For the republicans in the news its now the young Turks gonna move the old guard aside and sweep the floor of stuck-in-the-mud, non-effective leaders, so the current drift appears to be. For the dem's I can believe there is horrific frustration by the junior set elected with passion in their hearts to make a difference but are faced with "We'll read the bill after it becomes law," leadership mentality and Mt Rushmore size ideology trumping common sense that would otherwise allow constructive dialogue and compromise. Not that dem's have the corner in the market on those characteristics, as I am struck with it from all directions.

If the good ferry were to come along and unwind the dysfunction tomorrow and purge the unwarranted gridlock, our economy, banking, and government could become effective again.
well at anyrate, all economics comes down to two camps. I started another thread on the "Economics" forum just to discuss this.

and it all comes down to "wealth redistribution" or just letting the best man win..

It's kind of scary, because when it's all said and done, there is no intellectual answer.

It all comes down to old fashined physical warfare. The team that's got the biggest baddest warriors who can beat your ass with superior weapons (and I mean the kind that can kill you physically dead) or the team that has the most devoted soldiers who are willing to give up their physical life (I mean giving up your life for your belief) will win.

It aint much different from the old Hollywood Westerns where a bad guy takes over a town, and a hero comes along and shoots him.
 
Quote from oldtime:

well at anyrate, all economics comes down to two camps. I started another thread on the "Economics" forum just to discuss this.

and it all comes down to "wealth redistribution" or just letting the best man win..

It's kind of scary, because when it's all said and done, there is no intellectual answer.

It all comes down to old fashined physical warfare. The team that's got the biggest baddest warriors who can beat your ass with superior weapons (and I mean the kind that can kill you physically dead) or the team that has the most devoted soldiers who are willing to give up their physical life (I mean giving up your life for your belief) will win.

It aint much different from the old Hollywood Westerns where a bad guy takes over a town, and a hero comes along and shoots him.

With that description, no argument: It's kind of scary.
 
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