Quote from Laissez Faire:
Regarding trading one`s own account and keeping 100% of profits versus trading with Patak and keeping 60-70-80%, it seems like Patak is a better choice to me regardless.
Someone mentioned $500 intraday margin on futures. Is the idea to start trading 1 ES contract with $500 in your account?
Okay, let`s say you have $5000 in your account. You are still running a high risk profile trading one contract per every $5000, but if you really, really know what you`re doing, you may pull it off.
But with Patak`s model, you can start trading 5 contracts on the $150K account, with a much more conservative risk profile.
Let`s assume an average of 3 ES points per day.
After 100 days, both accounts will have profits of $52 000 if Patak pays you 60%. Since you grew your equity beyond 15-30K, you get paid 70-80% of profits and the real number is higher. At this point, one could also increase leverage and probably gain access to substantially more volume and still trade within acceptable risk parameters giving a handsome pay-off even if receiving only 80%.
And this is ignoring the substantially higher risk of ruin with the more leveraged $5000 account.
Another thing is that one does not exclude the other. You can still trade your own account as well. You essentially pay $300 dollars to access more capital. The risk is clearly defined.
Am I missing something?