The Argument Against Creation

[fordewind]

Remarkably, science or at least some physicists are coming to the same conclusion

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1038/436029a

Haha..that was cool!Physical Reality created without Mind, what makes people atheists.

I like how Freud explains the holy trinity though.(father , son, holy spirit)

http://collectivelyconscious.net/wp...and-unconscious-mind-how-does-it-all-work.jpg

It just mind, it turns out.
10% - father;
50% - 60% - holy spirit;
30% - 40% - son.

 

[stu]

The real problem perhaps would be, after solving/ finding a solvable "foreseeable First cause", there should be always "another First cause that causes the currently already resolved First cause" to be resolved, whether it is a solvable or unsolvable one, simply a never-ending process!

Exactly, infinite regress, logic is collapsing there.

I'm not so sure. Quantum events occur all the time naturally and spontaneously without cause.

 

[exGOPer]

I'm not so sure. Quantum events occur all the time naturally and spontaneously without cause.

Alain Aspect's experiments confirmed it though

"Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations.

University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram."

http://www.southerncrossreview.org/9/hologram.htm

 

[fordewind]

the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram."

http://www.southerncrossreview.org/9/hologram.htm

It is.As is things in your dream.they can be liquid, hot, solid etc..

 

[OddTrader]

My guess since recently has been thinking that when the scientists later find out more about dark energy/matter, many of the existing theories would have to be modified, as well as many new theories would be explored later.

The Stoicism physics is just funny. It for long long time ago says everything is materialistic. That means light, quantum communication, and whatever else, are all transmitting and communicating signal through various forms of matter.

imo, it would be not impossible that the speed of light could be possibly slower, far far slower, than quantum communication through dark matter which occupies almost the whole universe.

* What is Dark Matter? - Space.com
https://www.space.com/20930-dark-matter.html - Cached
14 Nov 2017 ... Roughly 80 percent of the mass of the universe is made up of material that scientists cannot directly observe. Known as dark matter, this bizarre ingredient does not emit light or energy. ... Van Dokkum led a team that identified the galaxy Dragonfly 44, which is composed almost ...

* Dark Matter in the Universe - Indiana University Bloomington
www.indiana.edu/~geol105/.../dark_matter_in_the_universe.htm - Cached - Similar
Dark Matter in the Universe. As much as 90 percent of the matter in the universe is invisible. Detecting this dark matter will help astronomers better comprehend the universe's destiny ...

* New Dark Matter Physics Could Solve The Expanding Universe ...
https://www.forbes.com/.../new-dark-matter-physics-could-solve-the-expanding-universe-controversy/ - Cached
10 Jan 2018 ... Multiple teams of scientists can't agree on how fast the Universe expands. Dark matter may unlock why.

* Dark Matter | COSMOS
astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/D/Dark+Matter - Cached - Similar
Most of the mass-energy, about 95%, in the universe is 'dark'. By dark we mean that it does not emit any form of electromagnetic radiation. The existence of Dark Matter is inferred indirectly by its gravitational effect. Observations of the motions of stars and gas in galaxies, cluster galaxy radial velocities, hot gas properties of ...

 

[stu]

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing.

I think Quantum Entanglement goes quite a long way towards explaining that one.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/1328.html

 

[OddTrader]

My guess since recently has been thinking that when the scientists later find out more about dark energy/matter, many of the existing theories would have to be modified, as well as many new theories would be explored later.

The Stoicism physics is just funny. It for long long time ago says everything is materialistic. That means light, quantum communication, and whatever else, are all transmitting and communicating signal through various forms of matter.

imo, it would be not impossible that the speed of light could be possibly slower, far far slower, than quantum communication through dark matter which occupies almost the whole universe.

Since I was young, I was very curious about how come the vacuum universe can support the heavy weight of our Earth in the space which is vacuum? It's simply illogical, and impossible!

Now I think it is highly possibly that the dark matter actually supports our Earth in the space.

And my guess also is the dark matter should have a form of Dark Mass in order to support the heavy weight of our Earth.

The way to measure Dark Mass would be completely different than the conventional way to measure conventional weight/mass.

lol

PS: Perhaps the UFO already knows how to fly faster than light through flying via dark matter.

 

[fordewind]

No one will ever figure how the Earth is hanging in space.I can only tell you that it hangs by the same principles as you draw the hanging Earth on paper.Its a kind of magic.The Earth does not exists, acrually, it`s cartoonish.So it can hang, rotate and do other cartoonish tricks.

 

[OddTrader]

Since I was young, I was very curious about how come the vacuum universe can support the heavy weight of our Earth in the space which is vacuum? It's simply illogical, and impossible!

Now I think it is highly possibly that the dark matter actually supports our Earth in the space.

And my guess also is the dark matter should have a form of Dark Mass in order to support the heavy weight of our Earth.

The way to measure Dark Mass would be completely different than the conventional way to measure conventional weight/mass.

lol

PS: Perhaps the UFO already knows how to fly faster than light through flying via dark matter.

We used to think the planets we can see are the main object of interest! No More!!!

Now that we know the unseen planets will be the main object of interest in the space/universe.

* Planet 9: Secret, dark world possibly hiding within our solar system ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../planet-9-secret-dark-world-could-be-hiding-in-our-solar-system-a6823646.html - Cached - Similar
22 Jan 2016 ... A huge planet might be sitting at the edge of our solar system without ever being seen. The world — which could be about ten times as massive as Earth — would be large enough to become the ninth planet of our solar system. ... What we know about new mysterious dark world in our ...

* Billions of Dark Planets Roam the Milky Way - The Daily Galaxy ...
www.dailygalaxy.com/.../billions-of-dark-planets-roam-the-milky-way.html - Cached - Similar
20 Sep 2011 ... Astronomers have discovered a new class of Jupiter-sized planets floating alone in the dark of space, away from the light of a star. The team believes these lone worlds were probably ejected from developing planetary systems. ... This would add up to hundreds of billions of lone ...

* Scientists discover light-eating dark planet - AOL News - AOL.com
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/...dark-planet/23211798/ - Cached
16 Sep 2017 ... Using Hubble's Space Telescope, researchers have found a planet so dark that it absorbs 94 percent of the light that reaches it.

 

[exGOPer]

It is.As is things in your dream.they can be liquid, hot, solid etc..

Hungry ghosts, animals, human beings, and devas,
According to their different perceptions
Perceive the same thing differently.
One should admit that their referent (yi; artha) is not a substantial reality (chen-shih, dravya).

In regard to phenomena of the past and future,
As in dream images or mirror reflections,
Although the object-support (alambana) is not real,
Still the marks of objects of cognition (visaya-lakshanas) are posited

http://www.bdkamerica.org/system/fi...heHeartSutra_2001.pdf?file=1&type=node&id=471