The 95% consensus is now just 43%

A review of Steyn’s scathing new book about Michael Mann: “A Disgrace To The Profession”

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Wow... The feedback in that book about Mann from other reputable climate scientists such as Curry is just scathing.

We should send Futurecurrents a copy of this book.
 

http://notrickszone.com/2015/08/12/...-cold-from-2025-to-2050/#sthash.5uac2APi.dpbs

“We Are Now Starting To See A Dramatic Cooling In The Arctic”, Says Former NOAA Meteorologist …”Extremely Cold” From 2025 To 2050!

Here are the points he makes in the video:

1. The 18+ years temperature pause is real. (4.09)
2. Natural cycles are behind the current pause.
3. Ice cores show CO2 lags temperature. (5.00)
4. 7000 years ago there was 50% less Arctic ice. (8.20)
5. The 1000-year cycle is real. (9.20)
6. Planet has been cooling over past 10,000 years. (9.34)
7. Natural cycles are driving our climate. (10.04)
8. Shows cooling from 2023 to 2150.
9. Current warming is perfectly natural.
10. Milankovitch cycles driving large-scale cycles. (13.00)
11. Gravitational forces can bulge Earth’s core by 1.4 km (15.35)
12. Gravitational forces impact global temperature (17.20)
13. Warming and cooling both begin at the poles (17.48)
14. Arctic warming/melt was caused by warm ocean pulses (19.50)
15. “Now starting to see a dramatic cooling in the Arctic“. (22.50)
16. “Arctic is cooling rapidly now. Rapidly!” (24.06)
17. Both poles are cooling rapidly now. (25.05(
18. Poles don’t show signs of warming. (26.30)
19. Western drought and Eastern cold due to 26-year cycle. (27.55)
20. Polar vortices due to Arctic/global cooling. (29.25)
21. Lunar cycles correlated with warming/cooling cycles. (31.30)
22. Rapid global cooling by 2019. (32.00)
23. “Temperature fiddling” are “more political than anything”. (32.56)
24. “Could be the biggest scientific scandal ever”. (33.20)
25. IPCC using “estimated temperatures”. (34.00)
26. How the government manipulated, rewrote data. (36.00)
27. “This is temperature fiddling.” Not the truth. (36.45)
28. NASA, NOAA’s “politically driven press releases”. (37.00)
29. Met Office calls NOAA’s 2014 claim untrue. (38.00)
30. Major data fiddling, cheating by NOAA. (39.50)
31. “The 97% consensus is bogus”. (41.00)
32. John Cook cooked the consensus data. (41.30)
33. 85% meteorologists say climate change is natural. (42.20)
34. Global cooling is the real danger. (43.20)
35. Volcanoes and cooling often correlated. (44.00)
36. Crop failures from cooling “very likely”. (45.45)
37. “Extremely cold” from 2025 to 2050. (46.36)
38. Global cooling next 125 years. (47.00)
39. “The cooling is coming”.


So? He's wrong about almost all the above and he whore for the FF industry/conservative think tanks and is not a climatologist. Is this what you consider good science? LOL
 
a. if you read your paper you see this statement, confirming the models failed. I will then give you the translation of this paragraph...

here is your paper's explanation for the failure... (which you were denying for the past few years.)

"Combined, the apparent discrepancy between observations and simulations of global temperature over the past 15 years can be partly explained by the way the comparison is done (about a third), by the incorrect radiative forcings (about a third) and the rest is either due to climate variability or because the models are slightly over sensitive on average. But, the room for the latter effect is now much smaller."

b. and now for the correct translation...

1. 1/3 of the failure is due to the fact we could not fudge temperature records fast enough.

2. 1/3 of the failure (at least) is due to the fact the Sun and the Tides really have a big influence on temperature.

3. 1/3 of the failure is because co2 trails global warming and cooling and does not drive it.




Climate models are even more accurate than you thought
The difference between modeled and observed global surface temperature changes is 38% smaller than previously thought

There’s a common myth that models are unreliable, often based on apples-to-oranges comparisons, like looking at satellite estimates of temperatures higher in the atmosphere versus modeled surface air temperatures. Or, some contrarians like John Christy will only consider the temperature high in the atmosphere, where satellite estimates are less reliable, and where people don’t live.

This new study has shown that when we do an apples-to-apples comparison, climate models have done a good job projecting the observed temperatures where humans live. And those models predict that unless we take serious and immediate action to reduce human carbon pollution, global warming will continue to accelerate into dangerous territory.


http://www.theguardian.com/environm...odels-are-even-more-accurate-than-you-thought
 
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From the idiot wetodddidtoo's post above...............

"The recent cold winters and expanding polar ice caps are ominous signs of a global cooling that has already begun, maintains David Dilley -"

lol, what an idiot, and this is the kind of douchebag that right wing denier morons like wedidtoddintheasstoo rely on. Almost funny, but more pathetic.

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a. if your read your paper your see this confirming the models failed. I will then give you the translation of this paragraph...

here is your paper's explanation for the failure... (which you were denying for the past few years.)

"Combined, the apparent discrepancy between observations and simulations of global temperature over the past 15 years can be partly explained by the way the comparison is done (about a third), by the incorrect radiative forcings (about a third) and the rest is either due to climate variability or because the models are slightly over sensitive on average. But, the room for the latter effect is now much smaller."

b. and now for the correct translation...

1. 1/3 of the failure is due to the fact we could not fudge temperature records fast enough.

2. 1/3 of the failure (at least) is due to the fact the Sun and the Tides really have a big influence on temperature.

3. 1/3 of the failure is because co2 trails global warming and cooling and does not drive it.


So you didn't read the article. Whatever. The ignorant just want to stay that way I guess.
 
I clicked around and saw nothing.

You are going to have to produce some papers showing man made co2 causes warming.
Perhaps you could cut and paste the links. I will click on a few but I hope you read them first to make sure they are not the failed models discussed above.

They have a tremendous amount of publications to organize. If you want to see just one paper, you will have to drill down from the methodology link at the top, through the various specialties and countries, etc., to get to the individual paper and authors levels.

Again, don't sidetrack to the models business. I am responding to your "show me the science" demand. That monumental pyramid of documentation IS the science, and it's complex.
 
your article confirmed the models failed and now you resort to this troll crap.
let me give it to you again...



"Combined, the apparent discrepancy between observations and simulations of global temperature over the past 15 years can be partly explained by the way the comparison is done (about a third), by the incorrect radiative forcings (about a third) and the rest is either due to climate variability or because the models are slightly over sensitive on average. But, the room for the latter effect is now much smaller."

b. and now for the correct translation...

1. 1/3 of the failure is due to the fact we could not fudge temperature records fast enough.

2. 1/3 of the failure (at least) is due to the fact the Sun and the Tides really have a big influence on temperature.

3. 1/3 of the failure is because co2 trails global warming and cooling and does not drive it.



So you didn't read the article. Whatever. The ignorant just want to stay that way I guess.
 
I clicked around and saw nothing.

You are going to have to produce some papers showing man made co2 causes warming.
Perhaps you could cut and paste the links. I will click on a few but I hope you read them first to make sure they are not the failed models discussed above.


Of course you saw nothing. More like nothing registered in that warped brain of yours. You are a joke.
 
So? He's wrong about almost all the above and he whore for the FF industry/conservative think tanks and is not a climatologist. Is this what you consider good science? LOL
Bold, underline and blue mine.

http://joannenova.com.au/2015/07/spot-the-vested-interest-the-1-5-trillion-climate-change-industry/
Climate Change Business Journal
estimates the Climate Change Industry is a $1.5 Trillion dollar escapade, which means four billion dollars a day is spent on our quest to change the climate. That includes everything from carbon markets to carbon consulting, carbon sequestration, renewables, biofuels, green buildings and insipid cars. For comparison global retail sales online are worth around $1.5 trillion. So all the money wasted on the climate is equivalent to all the goods bought online.
 
This post misquotes the study. You can read it here: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/ipdf/10.1021/es501998e

57% of these respondents being "less than 95% sure" hardly suggests that they don't think anthropogenic causes are the primary drivers; it simply shows that, as good scientists, they recognize that complete certainty is not easy to come by.

This post is a disingenuous representation of the results of the study.
 
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