Texas vs. California

Quote from 377OHMS:

I was taught to drive in the Beckman parking lot.

Those businesses will never return to California. The numbers of people enrolling in engineering programs has dropped dramatically. Its McDonalds, Burger King or Taco Bell for people entering the job market in California. You want hot sauce with that tostada?


Weren't those new jobs in Texas Taco Stand jobs? Didn't Gov. Ricky have an open door policy with illegals?

Engineering programs? CA raised tuitions for all universities. Well still got more schools than Texas. Gov. Ricky cut school education by a lot too.

Isn't Texas one of the last in public education in the U.S. Not to mention most amount of people without health coverage?
 
Quote from sfbayarea:

Weren't those new jobs in Texas Taco Stand jobs? Didn't Gov. Ricky have an open door policy with illegals?

Engineering programs? CA raised tuitions for all universities. Well still got more schools than Texas. Gov. Ricky cut school education by a lot too.

Isn't Texas one of the last in public education in the U.S. Not to mention most amount of people without health coverage?

Austin is the largest component of the Austin Round Rock MSA, which had a Gross Domestic Product of $86 billion in 2010.[85] Austin is considered to be a major center for high tech.[86] Thousands of graduates each year from the engineering and computer science programs at The University of Texas at Austin provide a steady source of employees that help to fuel Austin's technology and defense industry sectors.

The metro Austin area has much lower housing costs than Silicon Valley, but much higher housing costs than many parts of rural Texas. As a result of the high concentration of high-tech companies in the region, Austin was strongly affected by the dot-com boom in the late 1990s and subsequent bust.[86] Austin's largest employers include the Austin Independent School District, the City of Austin, Dell, the U.S. Federal Government, Freescale Semiconductor (spun off from Motorola in 2004), IBM, St. David's Healthcare Partnership, Seton Family of Hospitals, the State of Texas, Texas State University–San Marcos, and The University of Texas.[86] Other high-tech companies with operations in Austin include Nvidia, 3M, Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Google, AMD, Applied Materials, Cirrus Logic, Cisco Systems, Flextronics, eBay/PayPal, Bioware, Blizzard Entertainment, Hoover's, Intel Corporation, National Instruments, Samsung Group, Buffalo Technology, Silicon Laboratories, Xerox, Oracle, Hostgator, and United Devices.

In 2010, Facebook accepted a grant to build a downtown office that could bring as many as 200 jobs to the city.[87] The proliferation of technology companies has led to the region's nickname, "the Silicon Hills", and spurred development that greatly expanded the city. The concentration of high-tech companies has led the former American Airlines flight between Austin and San Jose, California to be dubbed the "nerd bird."[88]

Austin is also emerging as a hub for pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies; the city is home to about 85 of them.[86] The city was ranked by the Milken Institute as the No.12 biotech and life science center in the United States.[89] Companies such as Hospira, Pharmaceutical Product Development, and ArthroCare.

Whole Foods Market (often called just "Whole Foods") is an upscale, national grocery store chain specializing in fresh and packaged food products—many having an organic-/local-/"natural"-theme. It was founded and is headquartered in Austin.[90]

Other companies based in Austin include Temple-Inland, Keller Williams Realty, GSD&M Idea City, Golfsmith, Forestar Group and EZCorp.

An Online Trading Academy office and center is also located in Austin.[91]

In addition to national and global corporations, Austin features a strong network of independent, unique, locally-owned firms and organizations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas
 
Isn't Austin one of the only more liberal places in Texas? And you're bragging Austin. LOL

I heard Texas got illegals too.. Tex Mex.. you guys still love gov. Ricky right?
 
Quote from sfbayarea:

You guys have no clue what socialism is. You think it's the same as communism. It's not.

Watching too much Murdoch television will lead you to think they are the same.

California is an expensive place to live. The houses are expensive here. It's gotten that way since it's roots from a while go during the boom of the 90's. Sure.. doesn't mean I want to live in Texas. Judging from the amount of ranting here and mean spiritedness, not impressed with Texas.

CA has had to raise taxes.. it needs money. Just like other states need money. Some of it is money poor management by city and state governments. During the boom, they spend like crazy and not save much but in the end when it's gone, they're in debt. Not much different elsewhere. Of course, you guys leave out the Enron blame stuff and those guys were saints. LOL

"Just like other states need money". LOL!

Like I said, I only pay 6.1% and have good accountants so I won't be paying any additional taxes. I'm beating the system and you can't do a damned thing about it.

Your references to Enron is pretty funny. Another ET sock puppet who thinks we should all pay more for the mismanagment of California. I can assure you that the wealthy will escape and the poor and middle-class will suffer. The bankrupt municipalities will be primarily the less affluent towns up near the bay area. Down here in SoCal we'll just be laughing at you.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

"Just like other states need money". LOL!

Like I said, I only pay 6.1% and have good accountants so I won't be paying any additional taxes. I'm beating the system and you can't do a damned thing about it.

Your references to Enron is pretty funny. Another ET sock puppet who thinks we should all pay more for the mismanagment of California. I can assure you that the wealthy will escape and the poor and middle-class will suffer. The bankrupt municipalities will be primarily the less affluent towns up near the bay area. Down here in SoCal we'll just be laughing at you.

Where are u in SoCal? The OC? I don't care what rate you pay. Many large corporations get away with paying nothing. Yeah and you're complaining about taxes. LOL

Why would the rich leave CA? They can afford it. Not like they're applying for welfare just to stay here. They're rich.. give me a break. Where they gonna move, Texas? Rich people are not going to pack up and leave. They might send some businesses outsourced but that's it. Romney has a home in CA, why doesn't he leave? He has many houses in many states. People stay where they're used to if they can afford it. Taxes are not going to force someone into the poor house. That's the biggest piece of propaganda by the right. Taxes turning the rich into the poor. LOL
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Austin is the largest component of the Austin Round Rock MSA, which had a Gross Domestic Product of $86 billion in 2010.[85] Austin is considered to be a major center for high tech.[86] Thousands of graduates each year from the engineering and computer science programs at The University of Texas at Austin provide a steady source of employees that help to fuel Austin's technology and defense industry sectors.

The metro Austin area has much lower housing costs than Silicon Valley, but much higher housing costs than many parts of rural Texas. As a result of the high concentration of high-tech companies in the region, Austin was strongly affected by the dot-com boom in the late 1990s and subsequent bust.[86] Austin's largest employers include the Austin Independent School District, the City of Austin, Dell, the U.S. Federal Government, Freescale Semiconductor (spun off from Motorola in 2004), IBM, St. David's Healthcare Partnership, Seton Family of Hospitals, the State of Texas, Texas State University–San Marcos, and The University of Texas.[86] Other high-tech companies with operations in Austin include Nvidia, 3M, Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Google, AMD, Applied Materials, Cirrus Logic, Cisco Systems, Flextronics, eBay/PayPal, Bioware, Blizzard Entertainment, Hoover's, Intel Corporation, National Instruments, Samsung Group, Buffalo Technology, Silicon Laboratories, Xerox, Oracle, Hostgator, and United Devices.

In 2010, Facebook accepted a grant to build a downtown office that could bring as many as 200 jobs to the city.[87] The proliferation of technology companies has led to the region's nickname, "the Silicon Hills", and spurred development that greatly expanded the city. The concentration of high-tech companies has led the former American Airlines flight between Austin and San Jose, California to be dubbed the "nerd bird."[88]

Austin is also emerging as a hub for pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies; the city is home to about 85 of them.[86] The city was ranked by the Milken Institute as the No.12 biotech and life science center in the United States.[89] Companies such as Hospira, Pharmaceutical Product Development, and ArthroCare.

Whole Foods Market (often called just "Whole Foods") is an upscale, national grocery store chain specializing in fresh and packaged food products—many having an organic-/local-/"natural"-theme. It was founded and is headquartered in Austin.[90]

Other companies based in Austin include Temple-Inland, Keller Williams Realty, GSD&M Idea City, Golfsmith, Forestar Group and EZCorp.

An Online Trading Academy office and center is also located in Austin.[91]

In addition to national and global corporations, Austin features a strong network of independent, unique, locally-owned firms and organizations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas

Dallas/Ft.Worth is packed with technical companies. Even San Antonio has lots of them and a low unemployment rate. Austin is supposed to be a nice place to live with a good nightlife and music scene. I would be proud to live there.

I stayed in SoCal because of the weather and family but I've got plans to depart this year.
 
Quote from sfbayarea:

Where are u in SoCal? The OC?

Why would the rich leave CA? They can afford it. Not like they're applying for welfare just to stay here. They're rich.. give me a break. Where they gonna move, Texas? Rich people are not going to pack up and leave. They might send some businesses outsourced but that's it. Romney has a home in CA, why doesn't he leave? He has many houses in many states. People stay where they're used to if they can afford it. Taxes are not going to force someone into the poor house. That's the biggest piece of propaganda by the right. Taxes turning the rich into the poor. LOL

Keep talking out of your ass dude. It's fun beating you with facts.

http://www.wnd.com/2008/02/56876/

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
California exodus turns to stampede
High taxes drive jobs, people to other states


WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.

“When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state,” says a report called “Rich States, Poor States” by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. “Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole.”

And it’s not just the rich leaving.

Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, “despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains.”

The bad news for California is that it faces a $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.

“States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken,” said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC’s 2008 national chairman. “Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve.”

Moore told the Heartland Institute he is discouraged that government officials at all levels apparently have failed to recognize the benefits of tax cuts, spending controls, and open markets.

“We’ve gone from $25 trillion to $56 trillion of asset value in 25 years,” said Moore. “Policies that were enacted in the 1980s to bring this about are being reversed.”

Laffer’s “Laffer Curve” analysis of tax rates, economic growth, and government revenues shaped the tax-cutting policies of the Reagan administration in the 1980s. Laffer served as a member of President Ronald Reagan’s Economic Policy Advisory Board for both of Reagan’s terms as president. Moore is founder of the Club for Growth and senior economics writer and editorial board member at the Wall Street Journal.

The report provides economic competitiveness rankings for all 50 states based on 16 policy variables with a proven effect on the migration of people and investment capital in and out of states. States with the lowest tax, spending, and regulatory burdens win the competitiveness contest. These are primarily in the South and Southwest regions of the nation.

According to the findings, a record 8 million Americans moved from one state to another in 2006, revealing which states have the most dynamic and desirable economies and which are “has-been” states, according to Laffer and Moore.


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Quote from 377OHMS:

Dallas/Ft.Worth is packed with technical companies. Even San Antonio has lots of them and a low unemployment rate. Austin is supposed to be a nice place to live with a good nightlife and music scene. I would be proud to live there.

I stayed in SoCal because of the weather and family but I've got plans to depart this year.

Yeah.. Austin is the liberal center of Texas. You better be moving to Dallas instead. Better yet.. El Paso.
 
@Maverick

You're just posting articles about some companies that have left CA. I don't deny that some businesses have left CA. However I can do the same about the negatives of Texas as well.
 
Quote from sfbayarea:

@Maverick

You're just posting articles about some companies that have left CA. I don't deny that some businesses have left CA. However I can do the same about the negatives of Texas as well.

Post them! I want to see which companies are leaving Texas. Not negative articles about Texas. But companies actually leaving Texas. I'm all ears.
 
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