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TEXAS & the 10th AMENDEMENT!
- Thread starter EMRGLOBAL
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Quote from trefoil:
Are you talking at the state level? What I'm talking about is how much each state contributes in taxes to the Federal gov't as opposed to what they get back. Whether the state gov't is running a surplus is not directly relevant to that.
Understand your point now. You are always on top of things.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
You'd think liberals would encourage the red states to secede. Then they'd be rid of us and wouldn't have to bother with stealing elections or using the courts to get things voters oppose.
I think the red states would be willing to assume our proportionate share of the national debt. It'll be pretty easy to pay off with the revenues from offshore drilling and coal mining.
Excellent idea, yet since they do not believe in creating wealth, only stealing from those that create it....
Quote from trefoil:
All of this stuff is a lot of ignorance dressed up as clownish stupidity.
I distinctly remember pointing out the actual fact, to AAA, that the Red states are seriously subsidized by the Blue states. Obviously, from his comments in this thread, the lesson didn't take.
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If your data are accurate, that is just another reason the blue states should be happy to be rid of the red states. Not only will they be able to live in greater harmony and without the threat of people owning guns, they will reap a fiscal benefit as well. Talk about win, win.
You should be begging us to secede rather than threatening us. Of course, there will be the matter of finding someone to protect you.
Threatening? Where?
I'm merely pointing out that the red states are not nearly as self-sufficient as their blue brethren, as shown by the fact they go running to the Feds to solve merely local problems, and don't generate enough revenue to pay for those Federal gifts.
But as I pointed out before, this is part of how a nation functions. We get food and raw materials from you guys, you guys get a market for your stuff, plus goods and capital, from us.
Recall that this all started with the Texas governor threatening to secede from the Union. Texas is actually self-sufficient as shown by their ratios, which show them contributing more than they get.
So there would be some loss. But honestly, the idea of letting Texas go is extremely tempting, given their principal contribution to the nation in recent history was Dubya, and when I was a kid was LBJ. I don't know what's in the water down there, but somebody really oughtta find out.
Also, it would give us a buffer state between us and Mexico.
Damn, sounds better and better, I have to say...
I'm merely pointing out that the red states are not nearly as self-sufficient as their blue brethren, as shown by the fact they go running to the Feds to solve merely local problems, and don't generate enough revenue to pay for those Federal gifts.
But as I pointed out before, this is part of how a nation functions. We get food and raw materials from you guys, you guys get a market for your stuff, plus goods and capital, from us.
Recall that this all started with the Texas governor threatening to secede from the Union. Texas is actually self-sufficient as shown by their ratios, which show them contributing more than they get.
So there would be some loss. But honestly, the idea of letting Texas go is extremely tempting, given their principal contribution to the nation in recent history was Dubya, and when I was a kid was LBJ. I don't know what's in the water down there, but somebody really oughtta find out.
Also, it would give us a buffer state between us and Mexico.
Damn, sounds better and better, I have to say...
Quote from trefoil:
Threatening? Where?
I'm merely pointing out that the red states are not nearly as self-sufficient as their blue brethren, as shown by the fact they go running to the Feds to solve merely local problems, and don't generate enough revenue to pay for those Federal gifts.
But as I pointed out before, this is part of how a nation functions. We get food and raw materials from you guys, you guys get a market for your stuff, plus goods and capital, from us.
Recall that this all started with the Texas governor threatening to secede from the Union. Texas is actually self-sufficient as shown by their ratios, which show them contributing more than they get.
So there would be some loss. But honestly, the idea of letting Texas go is extremely tempting, given their principal contribution to the nation in recent history was Dubya, and when I was a kid was LBJ. I don't know what's in the water down there, but somebody really oughtta find out.
Also, it would give us a buffer state between us and Mexico.
Damn, sounds better and better, I have to say...
Texas is a good state but I have to agree, LBJ and Bush are the worst in the last 50 years. I don't think Texans should be blamed for that though.
While I live in a blue state - I live in conservative part of it.
I now live in San Diego but I grew up in New York and Greenwich Ct and went to school and worked in D.C.
The major blue cities on the eastern seaboard were constantly in debt and begging the Feds for money.
Now they are begging again. and
California is begging the Feds for money.
Your stat was most likely a stat twisted by a decade of financial fraud. How long will it be before new york goes to the verge of bankruptcy again. California is already there.
I seriously doubt the blue states will be paying more then they suck out in the next decade.
As you said your stat my be skewed by military spending. Which in my mind makes the who stat bogus.
I have trouble believing southern states get more handouts than D.C., New York, Phily, L.A. and all those under cities on the eastern seaboard.
That stat is very very dubious.
I now live in San Diego but I grew up in New York and Greenwich Ct and went to school and worked in D.C.
The major blue cities on the eastern seaboard were constantly in debt and begging the Feds for money.
Now they are begging again. and
California is begging the Feds for money.
Your stat was most likely a stat twisted by a decade of financial fraud. How long will it be before new york goes to the verge of bankruptcy again. California is already there.
I seriously doubt the blue states will be paying more then they suck out in the next decade.
As you said your stat my be skewed by military spending. Which in my mind makes the who stat bogus.
I have trouble believing southern states get more handouts than D.C., New York, Phily, L.A. and all those under cities on the eastern seaboard.
That stat is very very dubious.
Quote from jem:
While I live in a blue state - I live in conservative part of it.
I now live in San Diego but I grew up in New York and Greenwich Ct and went to school and worked in D.C.
The major blue cities on the eastern seaboard were constantly in debt and begging the Feds for money.
Now they are begging again. and
California is begging the Feds for money.
Your stat was most likely a stat twisted by a decade of financial fraud. How long will it be before new york goes to the verge of bankruptcy again. California is already there.
I seriously doubt the blue states will be paying more then they suck out in the next decade.
As you said your stat my be skewed by military spending. Which in my mind makes the who stat bogus.
I have trouble believing southern states get more handouts than D.C., New York, Phily, L.A. and all those under cities on the eastern seaboard.
That stat is very very dubious.
jem, I live in San Diego too. I'm not a day trader, I trade stocks with a longer term time frame. Let's meet for drinks some time. You're buying.
Quote from jem:
While I live in a blue state - I live in conservative part of it.
I now live in San Diego but I grew up in New York and Greenwich Ct and went to school and worked in D.C.
The major blue cities on the eastern seaboard were constantly in debt and begging the Feds for money.
Now they are begging again. and
California is begging the Feds for money.
Your stat was most likely a stat twisted by a decade of financial fraud. How long will it be before new york goes to the verge of bankruptcy again. California is already there.
I seriously doubt the blue states will be paying more then they suck out in the next decade.
As you said your stat my be skewed by military spending. Which in my mind makes the who stat bogus.
I have trouble believing southern states get more handouts than D.C., New York, Phily, L.A. and all those under cities on the eastern seaboard.
That stat is very very dubious.
I truly admire the ability of you guys to completely ignore the simple fact that the Northeast built its own infrastructure, as I pointed out, while the South had a lot of its built for it by the Feds. On top of that, that infrastructure is still being maintained by them as well.
Just for icing on the cake: FDR modeled the TVA after the New York State Power Authority. Most of the states served by the TVA are classified as red, of course.
Doubtless, their folks go on all day and night about them damn socialists in DC. Because, you know, they might tax them for, well, I suppose for the Federal services they benefit from.
But I suppose that really wouldn't be fair.
Could you do yourself and all of us the favor of going to Yahoo boards?
Quote from dsq:
How come this fool didnt declare this last fall when bush was in power and the markets were in freefall -down almost 50% ?
No balls...by another right wing camo wearing blowhard coward.The GOP is really modeling itself into the sarah palin party.Pathetic and regressing into the medeival age faster than a speeding cannonball.
BTW,the Dow is UP under obama.